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  • foxtail
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    hi, newbie here. am looking to upgrade to my first DSLR from compact. a friend is selling used (don’t know how much use…looks in great condition) 10D with grip and canon 24-85 ultrasonic lens. he’s asking for euro800. for around the same price i can get new D70s withy Nikkor AF-S 18-70DX lens and remote.

    not sure which one to get and how to make sure that used canon still has life in it. ANY advice would be appreciated!

    thanks

    SteveFE
    Member

    Same resolution and similar image quality. The Nikon will probably operate a bit faster, and will be new so no worries about shutter life. Ask your mate how many shots he’s taken. The 10D’s a very well built camera (as is the D70) and the shutter should be good for in excess of 100,000 shots from new. The battery grip’s a handy thing to have for all-day shooting and better balance with big lenses. The 24-85 is an old lens and probably bettered by newer Canon offerings (e.g. 17-85 IS).

    Really it’s down to used vs new, and choice of lenses. Once you start buying into a system it tends to be hard to change over as you’ll be heavily invested into lenses come body upgrade time. Both Canon and Nikon have the best ranges of lenses out there. Nikon have one that Canon currently can’t touch if you need one lens to do everything (the 18-200 VR), but then Canon have several that Nikon don’t cover (generally the more specialist ones like tilt/shifts and ultrawides, as well as several great 70-200 zooms).

    I don’t to get into religious wars so would only recommend that you do a load of reading and come to your own conclusions ;)

    earthairfire
    Participant

    Welcome aboard!

    Whenever there is a canon vs nikon question, loads of people will tell you how great they both are.

    Both brands have plus’s and minuses. Canon have the edge on noise whereas nikon have the edge on flash. Both are great though. Personally, I’d pick them both up and see which feels more intuitive.

    Tim

    Mark
    Keymaster

    What sort of photography do you want to do ? If your interested in landscape them the 18mm from the Nikon 18-70mm is better
    suited than the 24mm Canon lens. If its portraits or street etc… you could probably get away with a 50mm 1.8 lens (superb quality
    and very cheap) and get a D80 instead of the D70s.

    foxtail
    Participant

    thanks for all the replies. in terms of what i plan to shoot, my immediate requirements are for my sister in law’s wedding and a trip to africa and hopefully,lots of wildlife. i enjoy shooting people and in particular capturing thoughts, emotions etc.
    i suppose other options are more entry-level cameras like 400D and D50/40 with more spent on lens. would this be a better idea?

    IOP
    Participant

    I noticed this post on another forum and it puts the 10D first in that question also, does this mean that the 10D is where it’s at for you?

    foxtail
    Participant

    no digitalbeginner, i cut ‘n paste. i’m leaning towards the D70s and maybe now a D50 that comes with three lens here for less. i’ve friends coming over from the US.

    i’ve had the 10D for the weekend, sadly the weather’s meant i couldn’t go out and give it a good go. i’ve taken shots indoors though and i haven’t totally fallen in love with this particular one. mostly i think in value-for-money terms i’d be better with the new kit

    IOP
    Participant

    The 18-70 lens that comes with the D70s is a winner in my view. It is actually a 28-105mm in 135mm terms. This means that in the one lens you have the wide angle on one end and a pretty good portrait lens on the other. Around 100mm is considered a good zoom length for portraits (Thorsten could give you the technical reasons behind this).

    The problem with the D50 (and the 350D/400D) in my opinion is that the standard 18-55mm kit lens (28-82mm in 135mm terms) just doesn’t have enough reach, forcing you to change lens if you want to get a bit closer. Changing lenses of course introduces the possiblity of dust getting on the sensor, so keep it to a minimum if possible.

    I have the D70s and it’s a great camera for my type of photography, so I’m a little biased on the bodies, but I believe my comments on the lenses are across the board.

    BTW Canon produce an excellent 17-85 (28-135mm in 135mm terms) which has Image Stabilisation as well and can be had for ?430 from Digital Rev. This is the link: http://www.digitalrev.com/en/product_details.php?category_id=106&item_id=28&currency_code=EUR

    foxtail
    Participant

    thanks all, will go with the D70. appreciate all the comments

    foxtail
    Participant

    hi all

    thought i’d at least report back – after much soul-searching and many a bleary-eyed night in front of various forums (fora?) i decided to go for the sony alpha a-100. for the cameras in my budget i found the alpha to have the most features, in particular the anti-shake feature was a pull. it does have it’s weaknesses, noise at >ISO 800 is below par for cameras in it’s class.
    ultimately it came to price for features and i was able to get a good deal on amazon US. i paid the same there for body, kit lens 18-70mm, a sigma APO DG 70-300mm, external sony flash, 4GB card for what i’d have paid for body only here at the sony store. i paid import duty and that took the equivalent price to body and kit lens at sony centre.

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