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the celtic tiger is alive and well
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Maybe next time you will put the camera away and go get him a sandwich and a coffee, instead of taking away a little slice of his dignity on your memory card.
Photographically I don’t think you managed to pull of this shot – Yes you got down low and have direct eye contact but the image doesn’t work – the background is blown , there is no detail in the sky and this man is too distant in the frame.
Regarding Steve’s comments .. I thought we were supposed to critique the images here ? Who moderates the moderators ??
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LoGill wrote:
Regarding Steve’s comments .. I thought we were supposed to critique the images here ? Who moderates the moderators ??
Lorraine – It was critique on what the image portrays. Critique doesn’t necessarily have to be on the technical issues. Thanks. (Btw, Mark moderates the moderators!)
I also think it was quite a valid comment to make.
“Maybe next time you will put the camera away and go get him a sandwich and a coffee, instead of taking away a little slice of his dignity on your memory card.”
That doesnt appear to be crititque to me either – it was preachy, patronnising and dismissive.
You were trying to tell the guy how to think in a wider general sense and not what was right or wrong with his photograph.
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I think the picture is flat and uninspiring – the only thing I liked about it was the angle and the eye contact.
The white sky and white water took away from it in my view.
Also I am not a fan of pictures of beggars/homeless people which have titles like that – in my view its a very cliched subject matter/approach at this stage.
Ok fair enough folks, I could have been a bit more constructive. Sorry Baz. If I was taking a photograph of someone on that bridge (and it wouldn’t be a homeless person!), I would ask them to sit in the centre of the walkway, at the top of the steps. I would then move right back to the end of the bridge and use a long lens to pick them out…….maybe with the steps leading up to them and placing the person in the top half of the image. That would give you some sort of symmetry in the photo, with a lone figure positioned in a pose of your choice. Now sure how practical that might be in reality though. I imagine it is a busy bridge!
SteveD wrote:
…..I could have been a bit more constructive. Sorry Baz.
Your comment was totally unnecessary, particularly from someone who doesn’t photograph people?
SteveD wrote:
If I was taking a photograph of someone on that bridge (and it wouldn’t be a homeless person!)
Why not Steve? People take photographs of homeless people all the time and post them here, particularly Ciaran, and I havent heard you say so much as ‘boo’ to him? Maybe you could enlighten us as to why homeless people should not be photographed?
SteveD wrote:
…….I would then move right back to the end of the bridge and use a long lens to pick them out…….
I dont think this is good advice at all. Have a look at Ciaran’s photographs of homeless people, and you will see that you need to get fairly close to the subject for it to work, and not with a long lens.
My 2c worth.
Ross
In the words of Justin Timberlake Ross – “take it to the bridge” or start a new thread.
Why? It’s all relevant to the thread? And Steve is a big boy. I am quite sure he can stick up for himself.
Ross, I know you love to get involved and create a big fuss, but maybe you could PM me rather than take over the thread? I notice you haven’t provided much feedback either.
SteveD wrote:
Maybe next time you will put the camera away and go get him a sandwich and a coffee, instead of taking away a little slice of his dignity on your memory card.
i actually did chat to him, cracked a joke , and gave him some money for what its worth to you — it was more than most of the rest of the walkers by did — i also asked his permission to photograph , and told him why i was taking it – so maybe don’t be so presumptious that i am so heartless — and am sorry you don’t like the photograph. I actually care more about the homeless than many people in dublin , and for whats its worth also ,have been homeless myself , and got myself back together again , and am aware that it can happen to anyone, and thats why i photographt it.
SteveD wrote:
Ross, I know you love to get involved and create a big fuss, but maybe you could PM me rather than take over the thread? I notice you haven’t provided much feedback either.
Not worthy of a response.
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