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  • dejoshea
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    Nikon launch D3 and D300

    The D3 will be full frame 12.1MP up to 11fps, and the D300 will be 12.2MP APS-C with 6-8fps.

    D3 http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikond3/
    D300 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07082313nikond300.asp

    jb7
    Participant

    :shock:

    Good to have more choice,
    and better cameras around the corner-

    Though I can see the used sink market fall through the floor

    :D

    Presumably the FOV crop will work with any lens-
    Nikon has used this before to get higher frame rates-

    Most Nikon digital users will have DX lenses-
    unless they’ve been shooting exclusively at the long end-

    Most of Nikon’s glass is full frame though-
    and they continue to make film cameras-

    Canon users might have the same problem replacing glass-
    If it turns out that the resolution of the sensor exceeds that of the lenses-

    j

    :shock:

    SteveFE
    Member

    They’re both seriously nice looking cameras, with awesome specs that even make a Canon fanboy like me go a bit green (if they live up to all the hype?I’ve seen one report stating that Nikon at the launch party were showing 30 x 45″ prints done at very high ISOs that looked essentially flawless).

    The lens image circle seems to be a non-issue too?the camera senses when it’s got a cropped circle lens attached and automatically sets itself to the smaller frame. Clever. One assumes they mustn’t have been making those lenses with sticky-out rear elements like Canon’s EF-S ones, or they’d be getting mirror-bash problems.

    JMcL
    Participant

    I’d imagine noise performance is pretty outstanding given the relatively low pixel count

    John

    Papaquebec
    Participant

    I personally would have liked to see more pixels in the 36mm x 24mm sensor. For those like myself who use the D2Xs this launch follows a little too-closely on the heels of the Xs’s introduction last year.

    Whilst I accept that pixel-count alone is no arbiter of image-quality (though some of my Canon-obsessed friends seem to be firmly of that opinion!) it would have been nice to see some of those extra sq/mm used to pack a tad more detail into the raw image and give a bigger canvas to import into PS for PostP.

    As I also have (and regularly use) a D200+MB-D200 I own a fair bit of DX glass which is optically fine for most of my general photographic needs with either body. If I upgrade at all in the next year or so it will most-likely swapping the D200 for the 300.

    If Nikon follow the path they did with the D2, there will likely be a D3S/D3H (or similarly named) in a year or two, and maybe Xs/Hs to follow those.

    Unless you are a full-time pro for whom equipment is a capital expenditure and therefore tax-deductible the cost of high-end gear is getting almost prohibitive. To paraphrase a quote from a review website (cant remember exactly which) while researching the D200 prior to purchase:
    “The D200 is 80% of the D2Xs, at a third of the cost” – as an owner of both I can truthfully report this to be an exceptionally accurate assessment!

    Be lucky all…

    Peter

    SANCHO
    Member

    If you want to see just how good the images the D3 is capable off check out this link

    http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-8743-9108

    I’ve never seen such sharpness and detail! absolutely staggering, especially the fireman and swan shots. I started putting together a Canon system but Nikon’s releases recently are making me think twice before I continue expanding my Canon system. I’m contemplating selling it and starting fresh with Nikon

    PeteTheBloke
    Member

    SANCHO wrote:

    I started putting together a Canon system but Nikon’s releases recently are making me think twice before I continue expanding my Canon system. I’m contemplating selling it and starting fresh with Nikon

    The grass is always greener on the other side….

    …but under the bridge lurks an ugly troll….

    Papaquebec’s quotation about the D200 sounds like wise wisdom, though.
    You really have to sit and think about this arms race sometimes. With film
    cameras there was at least a chance of getting a good return on your 2nd hand kit
    when you upgraded. With digital cameras we’re lucky to keep ahead of second hand
    PC prices.

    Maybe it’s not time to upgrade yet. Or maybe it’s better
    to upgrade while the gear is still worth selling. Or should we
    wait till the top-end stuff becomes
    the second-in-line stuff and buy it when it’s a bit cheaper?

    Really, it’s the photos that matter. Either they are good enough or they
    are not good enough.

    SANCHO
    Member

    Yeah i retract my earlier statement, just the 1Ds MK III’s shots and yeah….no contest :D My faith is restored in the Canon family.

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