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Bored of landscapes, think I’ll become a sports snapper…
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Gonna get to at least two matchs a week, whether it be hurling, football or whatever, from now til the end of summer.
If I throw enough of *good quality* mud here, hopefully some of it will stick.
This is my ego on a rampage, as I love the buzz of seeing my pictures in a paper, any paper.
But at least I’m being honest, which is something.
Anyhoo, what ya think of my latest offerings??
By the by, one thing I have noticed pretty much straight away is the total lack of civility between photographers at sporting events.
I mean, all I’m doing is taking pictures for free, hoping to destroy their reputation so I may take their position and their post within their respective newspapers, but like, they can at least be friendly.
Oh well… :twisted: :twisted:
All good images there Ken, and you know what they say “a changer is as good as a rest”. :lol:
Best of luck with the new venture, you certainly have the know how, and the equipment to make a break into this sort of photography.
Sean.
Like the motion freeze on the 2nd shot. Very good.
Best of luck with Sports – would like to succeed there eventually myself – who knows by the time I get there, you can then ignore me too as I try to steal your job :-)All excellent sports shots, my fav would be the rally car leaving the road.
Well captured Ken.
What lens Ken?
PatKen a great set really like number 3 of the hurler, it has everything the look on his face, the blurred backbground, the way you know there is a player behind him but he isn’t really taking up any space, the swing and ball and finally the blood running down his leg, just a pity a bit of his foot has been cut off. As you’ve guessed I like it.
Never have any problem with other photographers as I am usually the only one with a camera. Be careful though if covering under age games make sure you get permission from both teams and hope the parents don’t take a dislike to you, just ask Irish147.Keep them coming.
Soda
Sodafarl wrote:
Be careful though if covering under age games make sure you get permission from both teams and hope the parents don’t take a dislike to you, just ask Irish147.
I’ve covered some under age games, and have never asked permission. You don’t need to at all. If it’s a public place then you have every right to take photos.
I’ve also never had any issues with parents either, aside from the usual question – “What paper will the photos be in?”. I just tell them that I’m a freelance photographer so can’t guarantee what paper, if any, will publish them.
Sunday I covered an U11 cup game, and also took some photos at other games going on there too. People need to get away from this paranoia that you need permission.
As for the photos posted, if you’re sending them to the papers, then don’t crop the image tight. Leave the cropping to the paper, since they may need to alter the size depending on the space they need to use the image in. In general, they will crop it tight. I also wouldn’t worry about having feet cut in your photos.
Some very nice images there. Keep up the good photography.
Paul, I’m not saying that there would be problems at all games or as in your case any, it was just a word of warning and as I haven’y had problems with parents a number of people I know have had. I help out with a junior team and all players have had to have written consent stating that they are allowed to have their picture taken, unfortunately it is just the way things are and with child protection rules all aspects have to be covered.
Cheers
SodaThere is no current regulation nor legislation that requires authorisation for taking photographs in a public place.
Yes, there are guidelines for photographing under age sport, but these are for the clubs and organisations. These do not apply to photographers.
You, working with junior teams may require that they have written consent, but if I went along to one of your games, I would not require those. As long as the game is in a public place, I can just walk in and take photos.
It is a real shame when paranoia and such impacts on genuine sports photography.
Paul
I totally agree with you on all the points unfortunately it only takes the 1 person to take a dislike to what you are doing.Soda
I agree there. Shame really.
Mind you, in one game I was covering on Sunday, a parent was given a red card by the ref for abusive language, after his son had been sent off (for similar abusive language to the ref). It nearly ended up with the game being abandoned, before the other parents talked sense in to the guy and got him to leave the grounds.
I think sometimes that our world has gone mad. Kids are just brilliant to photograph – their expressions and actions are priceless. They’re so full of life. Many parents love having photos of their kids, and it’s also a nice bonus if their photo appears in the paper.
In general, the best thing to do is just explain that you’re a photographer (sports, freelance, or associated with X publication). Explain that their photo “might” appear in a paper, but it’s the editors choice, not yours. It’s these parents who are infringing on your rights as a photographer, rather than anything else.
lousyphoto wrote:
All excellent sports shots, my fav would be the rally car leaving the road.
Well captured Ken.
What lens Ken?
PatHey Pat, was using a 70-200mm f2.8 L IS with 1.4 extension. Great bit of glass.
As for underage games, I don’t think I’ll bother unless its me own two playing, and thats gonna be a few years.
paul wrote:
There is no current regulation nor legislation that requires authorisation for taking photographs in a public place.
Yes, there are guidelines for photographing under age sport, but these are for the clubs and organisations. These do not apply to photographers.
You, working with junior teams may require that they have written consent, but if I went along to one of your games, I would not require those. As long as the game is in a public place, I can just walk in and take photos.
It is a real shame when paranoia and such impacts on genuine sports photography.
Actually there are some restrictions on taking pic’s of kids …
for editorial (newspapers or sports magazines) use you’ll generally be ok .. anything beyond that is risky.#1 selling pics of kids without written permission of their parent/guardian is a major no-no
#2 Image rights always apply when a person is identifable.
#3 public place – exactly how many sports take place in a public place?
Most sports grounds are owned by some authority or other, whether it be a club or council. Unless you are standing in a public place taking the photos you do need the venue owners/managers permission to take photos for any commercial usage.This is an area that is getting stricter all the time. Each of the national governing bodies is supposed to have policies in this area. I know what the policy is for surfing, but I don’t know what (if any) policy any of the other NGBs have in place.
Personally the whole area of sports photography has some massive legal implications, and I know I want to get some training on the legalities involved before I actually do move onto trying to make a living from it.
lahinch_lass wrote:
Actually there are some restrictions on taking pic’s of kids …
for editorial (newspapers or sports magazines) use you’ll generally be ok .. anything beyond that is risky.#1 selling pics of kids without written permission of their parent/guardian is a major no-no
#2 Image rights always apply when a person is identifable.
#3 public place – exactly how many sports take place in a public place?
Most sports grounds are owned by some authority or other, whether it be a club or council. Unless you are standing in a public place taking the photos you do need the venue owners/managers permission to take photos for any commercial usage.This is an area that is getting stricter all the time. Each of the national governing bodies is supposed to have policies in this area. I know what the policy is for surfing, but I don’t know what (if any) policy any of the other NGBs have in place.
Personally the whole area of sports photography has some massive legal implications, and I know I want to get some training on the legalities involved before I actually do move onto trying to make a living from it.
funny, I was just reading an article about stuff like this and the regulations regarding it in America. Posted the article here.
Brian
By the by, one thing I have noticed pretty much straight away is the total lack of civility between photographers at sporting events.
I mean, all I’m doing is taking pictures for free, hoping to destroy their reputation so I may take their position and their post within their respective newspapers, but like, they can at least be friendly.
Oh well… :twisted: :twisted:
Take it as a compliment ! If they were good enough at what they do they wouldnt be worried about the competition, I met a local landscape photographer at the causeway one night and as i was chattin to him and showed him a few shots i took that evening. He told me his name and he is well known in the area. After about 20 mins i started to walk back to the car park which is about 20 mins up hill and about 5 mins later he drives past in his nice warm jeep didnt even beep never mind offer a lift !! TOOL !! but thats just the way some people are and iam sure not all sports photographers are the same. But by the look of the shots mate you dont need any pointers from them ;) keep it up and good luck. :)
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