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Hi all,
Has anyone ever managed to obtain an answer from any of the National Newspapers regarding submitting photographs? I’d like to give it a try up and down. Please help if you can.Cheers
LGWHi LGW
You’ll find that if you ring around the papers and politly ask to speak to someone regarding submitting photographs that they’ll give you a ton of information.
Nothing I’ve ever dabbled in myself so I have idea what the likelihood fo your actually getting printed is but I do know they’ll give you all the information you need (bar the Sunday Tribune which seems hard to get in touch with).
LGW wrote:
Hi all,
Has anyone ever managed to obtain an answer from any of the National Newspapers regarding submitting photographs? I’d like to give it a try up and down. Please help if you can.Cheers
LGWPihjin is right. If you see any kind of story at all take a shot. send it into the local papers etc. I have been doin this for a few months now. they will use anything that is good enough. Maybe i have been lucky, but they are ringing me now giving me jobs.
hope this helps.
Sean.
Most people use the scoopt website to submit newsworth images , the site touts them and takes a cut
Dee
Hi all,
Sorry for not getting back sooner. I’d just like to thank you all for your help.Thanks again.
lgwDeebo wrote:
Most people use the scoopt website to submit newsworth images , the site touts them and takes a cut
Dee
Anyone submitting to Scoopt clearly hasn’t read the terms and conditions, one of which states that you agree “to grant to Scoopt a worldwide exclusive licence of all copyright and other intellectual property rights in submitted Content. Scoopt shall thereafter be entitled to use the Content in all and any manner and media it chooses including (but not limited to) the right to sub-licence, modify or adapt the Content;”
Thorsten wrote:
Anyone submitting to Scoopt clearly hasn’t read the terms and conditions, one of which states that you agree “to grant to Scoopt a worldwide exclusive licence of all copyright and other intellectual property rights in submitted Content. Scoopt shall thereafter be entitled to use the Content in all and any manner and media it chooses including (but not limited to) the right to sub-licence, modify or adapt the Content;”
Just to add to this:
“If your photo is accepted and placed in the Scoopt and or Getty Images galleries, you cannot do anything with that photo for 12 months. You agree not to sell it to anybody else or to appoint another company to sell it for you. You agree not to publish it on your own website, if you have one, or to upload it to a blog or photo-sharing website. You agree not to print it on a mouse mat or a t-shirt or to send it to a pal. In short, you agree not to publish the photo in any way, shape or form, either directly or indirectly, for twelve months. After twelve months, however, you can do whatever you like with the photo… After twelve months, the licence automatically becomes non-exclusive and perpetual (note Thorsten’s bit above). We will still sell your photo and continue to split the money from each sale with you, but you can now publish the photo yourself and/or agree to somebody else publishing it.”I did a search on the scoopt site under ireland, seems like there was just 1 story involving a burnt out car.
Scoopt seems to want to keep all rights for 12 months exclusively.
I think that is too restricting.
Why should you want to give up all rights for them to make money.
You can also bet that if they are selling via Getty they will also be taking a cut out of that as well.
So you end up with pennies and your own copyright pictures that you can’t sell !Remember – all Newspapers have a Picture Desk and if the picture is good enough they will use it.
With the advent of the Internet you can sell your own pictures and keep ALL the money !
Keith
KeithJones wrote:
Remember – all Newspapers have a Picture Desk and if the picture is good enough they will use it.
If a picture sells newspapers they will use it, doesn’t even have to be that good, that’s about the bottom line.
The price you pay with places like Scoopt is that their reach and visibility is greater than that of an amateur photographer sending in a pic to the Picture Desk like hundreds or possibly thousands of others every day. If you did take a stunning and newsworthy picture over the weekend, national papers or the likes of Getty would pay more attention to a supply agency than to someone who might send in the odd pic here and there. And Scoopt might find you a magazine slot somewhere you’d never thought of.
But for that potential exposure, you sign away your life for 12 months. They make no secrets of taking a cut but I don’t think they say what that cut is; a consolation, if any, is that they only make money if you do. But it’s some price alright.
If you stick at it (sending to Picture Desks) then, like Sean, you might get lucky. Local newspapers might be a good place to start, or try both local and national and see how you go.
Remember – today’s newspaper is tomorrow’s fish & chips wrapper :lol:
I’ve been thinkin bout submitting to local papers for a while but I’ve been lost as to where I should start.
For example should you charge if you submit an image?
By the sound of things here local papers are more than willing to take pictures so?
eshortie wrote:
I’ve been thinkin bout submitting to local papers for a while but I’ve been lost as to where I should start.
For example should you charge if you submit an image?
By the sound of things here local papers are more than willing to take pictures so?
Get in touch, get on file and send in your pics. I expect they’d be in touch when they want to use one.
Your pics must be Titled and Captioned, the caption to contain your credit, i.e. ‘Pic by eshortie’ and indicate whether it is free or on spec.
I got in touch with the papers (by phone) who either put me through to the picture editor or gave me their email address. Talking with them I was put on file and told I could send pictures to them/their picture desk.
The problem I had was that none of them seemed to speak any semblance of normal English so I wasn’t able to get any straight answers from them. I’m still not clear about requirements for submission nor how I might be paid if they were to use one of my photos. I’ve not been as enthusiastic to send pics in as a result.
Also, all papers generally prefer to use a staff photographer so if they’re covering an event, they’d very unlikely use someone else’s photo.
I was also told that if you were compensated for your photos (e.g. by a client) then they would not be obliged to also pay you for a picture. In a nutshell you’re more likely to get published if you send in pics they can use for free.
stasber wrote:
eshortie wrote:
Also, all papers generally prefer to use a staff photographer so if they’re covering an event, they’d very unlikely use someone else’s photo.
Fair point, shur may aswell be on file I spose,
Thanks for that stasberJust remembered, if you are at an event and fancy sending in a pic, they’d want it asap usually the same day or within hours. For example, if I’m covering a gig, one paper told me their deadline was 1am very latest. It loses value very quickly otherwise and becomes stock for future general articles instead. But other than that if you submit landscape or other stuff that’s not (as) topical and can be used any time then go for it and good luck.
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