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First Fine Day
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Another projector lens-
7″ this time-Not easy, will need a lot more work before I’m confident with this-
depth of field is so tiny, and I missed it on this one-There’s a few more on the flikr page,
clicking on this takes you to a bigger one of this one-I see there’s a fashion for details, so-
Arca Swiss F-Line 4×5, ~8º rear swing, 25mm back rise, Buhl 7″ f/2.5 projector lens wide open, Packard Shutter on instant (1/25), Hoya PL, Hoya HMC R (25A), Hoya HMC 85B, Polaroid T55, exposed for neg, cleared in 18% Naâ‚‚SO₃, Scanned on Umax Powerlook 1100 1200spi, reduced for web-
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j
Arca Swiss F-Line 4×5, ~8º rear swing, 25mm back rise, Buhl 7″ f/2.5 projector lens wide open, Packard Shutter on instant (1/25), Hoya PL, Hoya HMC R (25A), Hoya HMC 85B, Polaroid T55, exposed for neg, cleared in 18% Naâ‚‚SO₃, Scanned on Umax Powerlook 1100 1200spi, reduced for web-
Hmmm…got to give that a go. And what sort of curve did you apply? :wink:
I think you’re being a bit hard on yourself with the DOF from what I can see from this image Joseph. It does look well executed and my first impression is that it comes from a mid 70’s Home & Leisure feature, no disrespect to the models, or if this was it the intention but it does look lively, if that’s a worthy description.
Alan.
Thanks Alan-
if you look at the large one you can see how far out I am-
a long way-These lenses aren’t so bad, particularly when given a monochrome filter-
they would give some lively results on colour, I’d say-But the depth of field is so limited, I’d quite like to get some focused properly-
especially since the resolution is a lot higher than I expected it to be-Here’s another, helped a bit by a bit of opposite swing, and the lone subject-
The light reflecting off the back wall is very bright and doesn’t allow for the tiny depth of field to show it’s true brilliance, unlike the Sharon/Robbie shot on your Flickr account.
That being said, both images are crisp and clean… quite quaint too… I like them.
I like the ‘effect’ around the edges too… I know you mentioned this was as a consequence of peeling… but it just adds a little extra character to the photos.
Lovely. The dof is divine- you just don’t get that quality on a 1.6x digital… I like the tones. Very well balanced composition.
But most of all it seeps feeling of lazy summer days.
Fantastic success J~~
They do both look like they are straight out of Home and Garden past.
I can’t understand your displeasure with the DOF..think I’ll need a lesson there~~~
It also looks like you had access to the kitchen sink or at least the garden hose.
I have been browsing the flicka and the set is divine.
Sharon
Thanks Sharon and Peter and John-
The dof thing, if its to work,
requires placing focus exactly where its needed-
and you can’t really see that here-In the first, the dof should be running through the two sitters,
but its not-
It does run almost parallel to the wall, so it seems like the focus is ok at this scale-I suppose I’m looking to control large out of focus areas with these lenses-
and I haven’t got the hang of it yet-Its an exercise in ‘bokeh’- the quality of the out of focus areas-
which should be helped by fast lenses, at high magnification, used wide open, without a diaphragm-
The chromatic abberation is controlled a little by heavy red filtration,
though it could be any strong primary- In this case, I think the red is giving it a kinda dreamy feel-Thanks for the kind comments-
These are still very much a series of tests,
but I’ve got a few things I’m looking forward to trying…Awaiting delivery of a few more lenses too-
j
Thanks for that explanation J~~
Funnily enough..the DOF is exactly as I would have expected to see it..and the reds seem appropriate as well..considering the spirit of the photo. If that makes any sense~~
But since you’ve sorted it..I see how it’s a bit misplaced and uneven.
Doesn’t matter..good luck with the next round..looking forward to seeing the new and improved~~
Shar
The dof from this lens has a real surreal thing going on,
the sitter in that second picture looks so small (maybe
just my eyes though) it almost looks like the rest of the
scene is swirling around him. It’s very nice I think.I like the first as well…
Sinead.
Bloomin’ fabulous Joseph. All very complex to achieve judging by
your adherence to the ‘fashion for details’. I do see the issue with
dof in the first, definitely improved in the second. The others from
the set look good too on flickr…Still looking forward to seeing some of these projector lenses in
action. I’d sit myself, though you know I have trouble keeping still for long.. :oops:Rob.
Thanks Rob, Sinead, Sharon-
Again, have to say, these were a bit of a test-
I hadn’t used this lens before,
and the little bit of fine weather provided an opportunity.I knew the dof will be shallow-
179mm f/2.5 will provide that-
so I was really testing for resolution and contrast-I had already made a few exposures on the dslr,
so I knew that there was some pretty wild chromatic aberration-
but I wanted to see how it translated onto film-This is the shortest of the lenses I’ve bought recently, and I was surprised by the size of the image circle-
I had maybe hoped to see the image degrade more toward the edges with this one-Rob, the portrait on the other site was made with the 9″,
and you can see from the large version,
its not un-sharp, when its in focus-Perhaps the next time I take your picture, I wont let you actually play the guitar-
see if that stops you fidgeting…Thanks again for the comments-
j
I think I’m going to have to do a full series of shots called Joseph and his Amazing Technicolour Projection Lenses!!
Whaddya think eh?
Not much more to add about the shots above that hasn’t already been said….do see the DOF problem…is more evident when viewed larger on Flickr.
But I’m pretty sure you enjoy the chase…and might even be bored if it was perfect… :wink:
Fascinating JB. I built a camera for my students last night (Sinar 5×4), it was the first time they’d thought about focus planes not being parallel to the film plane. We had a bit of fun shooting polaroids on things on a table top (can’t remember the name of the guy,,, shiny-plug or somesuch, grin).
I’ve never seen anyone use a projector lens in this way, I love experimentation. HOw do you get your film sheets scanned? Or do you print them straight from the film?
Ah, just read your notes, Umax Powerlook. Are they good? We need a 5×4 scanner for the school and were looking at the Epson V700.
All best
Si
Thanks Robbie, Simon-
I’ve been looking for anything that’ll bend light recently-
although the big cameras are criticized for being an anachronism,
and requiring too much patience,
they do allow you to use pretty much anything that’ll form an image-I used to use mostly wide angles,
(still do, used them this morning)
but I’m enjoying the longer focal lengths now-
for some entertainment, and experimentation-These are modern projector lenses-
the next time I go looking, I might be looking for antiques-
many older projector lenses are Petzval design,
and produce some pretty wild ‘swirly’ bokeh-The taking Petzvals are getting pretty expensive,
anything brass is attracting a premium these days-I don’t plan on using these lenses for this effect too much-
like any technique that screams ‘look at me’
it can get tired pretty quickly-
maybe better to use it invisibly,
as I usually would-That’s an old scanner, bequeathed to me by Dave at Digital Beginners-
the 700/750 gets good reviews for anything over 4×5-
though they are consumer scanners,
and the purists tend to look down their noses at them-Alternatives, pro level ones, are prohibitively expensive though…
Thanks again for the comments-
j
Can’t believe I have overlooked this! Marvelous stuff!!! -AND…. interesting to read! I genuinely admire the work gone into it!
Cheers! Ivar :-)
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