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Turner Prize 2009 shortlist

  • guthrij
    Participant
    5faythe
    Participant

    guthrij wrote:

    I’m saying nowt.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8022602.stm

    John

    You’re saying nowt.

    I know nowt.

    John.

    thedarkroom
    Participant

    Bit disappointing really. No pickled sharks, dead calf or Swarkovski skulls. All equally bizarre however and most probably just as expensive. I think my favourite is ”a painter who rejects canvas”. Very profound! As for Enrico David, I keep looking at it and thinking ‘constipated turkey’, that expression is haunting.

    I think we should have here an “Alternative Turner Selection” forum with the necessary pretentious statements. It’s comical (or outrageous in the current climate?) to think that these people have most likely received large sums of money for this work and a lot of it is probably from the Arts Council with tax payer funding. I do believe in funding the Arts but sometimes I wonder are some of these guys taking the p–s with their creations. I know art is subjective but who decides what is worthy of funding and who decides what goes in the skip. There is a large element of the ‘Kings New Clothes’ about some of these and the elite make the decisions while the rest are fools if they don’t appreciate it.
    Well there are several here that I don’t appreciate.

    5faythe
    Participant

    I think I’ll be “The photographer who rejects cameras”

    Where’s me entry form.

    I think its £25K for the winner.

    John.

    Jody
    Participant

    5faythe wrote:

    I think I’ll be “The photographer who rejects cameras”

    Where’s me entry form.

    I think its £25K for the winner.

    John.

    You could just bring in a model and put her in front of a white backdrop and say “Its a photograph, but I’m a photographer who rejects cameras”

    jb7
    Participant

    Perhaps it’s pretentious of me,
    but some of the work represented in those photographs looks quite beautiful to me-
    In particular, the copper sulphate interior,
    and the paintings on walls-

    What are the more acceptable alternatives?
    Sunsets perhaps?

    Jody
    Participant

    actually I somewhat agree with JB. Some of the work here is appealing.. much better than other years of the Turner Prize…

    Jody
    Participant

    What would be great though! Is if you put a pipe on the floor with a note saying “This actually is a pipe”

    5faythe
    Participant

    jb7 wrote:

    Perhaps it’s pretentious of me,
    but some of the work represented in those photographs looks quite beautiful to me-
    In particular, the copper sulphate interior,
    and the paintings on walls-

    What are the more acceptable alternatives?
    Sunsets perhaps?

    Hi Joseph,

    I wouldn’t think you are being pretentious at all.
    I quite like some of these too. For example the painting on the wall and the flame.

    I was taking the pee with my comments and you know, like my first comment,
    sometimes I really do think I know nowt.

    A sunset winning the turner prize? Now that, I think, would be radical.

    Acceptable to who? I have no trouble accepting these exhibits.

    John.

    5faythe
    Participant

    Jody wrote:

    5faythe wrote:

    I think I’ll be “The photographer who rejects cameras”

    Where’s me entry form.

    I think its £25K for the winner.

    John.

    You could just bring in a model and put her in front of a white backdrop and say “Its a photograph, but I’m a photographer who rejects cameras”

    Hi Jody,

    We could be on to a winner here. Wanna go halves?


    John.

    thedarkroom
    Participant

    The Copper Suphate installation, I can accept as it would have to be experienced rather than view as a photographs. You couldn’t possible appreciate this without actually walking around a experiencing how the light reflects and defracts through the translucent crystals. But the others? They’re not for me. I did art in college and while that doesn’t mean that I have a wide sweeping knowledge of all thing in the art world or understand all aspects of what is going on, I would feel that generally, my viewpoint would be sympathetic to some obscurities and oddities that appear in conceptual art.
    In this set of nominations, generally, they mostly do very little for me. Maybe I need to go to a few more exhibitions and shows and get out more. I will admit I haven’t attended much in a long time and maybe I’m stagnating (that’s not and odour issue).
    Anyone out there been to any good shows lately?

    David

    richiehatch
    Member

    I particularly like the drawings on the wall one. A different type of installation. Nice…! I might try it at home…. The missus will shoot me..!

    Also like the copper sulphate one but dont think I’d try that one in my house…!

    Richie

    jb7
    Participant

    richiehatch wrote:

    I particularly like the drawings on the wall one. A different type of installation.

    Maybe not so different-
    cave art would be a precedent,
    then there’s the work of the Renaissance masters…

    JMac-2006
    Participant

    I don’t know! I wasn’t going to comment as I can’t see the sense in them.

    I can never understand what justifies these indulgent often idiotic images and the expense on some of them. Just my opinion, Maybe its just me, maybe I am not in touch with my arty side? Perhaps I need to look and stare more to understand their meaning, or maybe I need to drink more of what they are drinking.

    I once saw two people in a gallery staring and contemplating, no doubt debating the virtues of an “L Plate” in a frame – now what is all that about – an L plate for god’s sake.

    Rant over

    thedarkroom
    Participant

    JMac-2006 wrote:

    I don’t know! I wasn’t going to comment as I can’t see the sense in them.

    I can never understand what justifies these indulgent often idiotic images and the expense on some of them. Just my opinion, Maybe its just me, maybe I am not in touch with my arty side? Perhaps I need to look and stare more to understand their meaning, or maybe I need to drink more of what they are drinking.

    I once saw two people in a gallery staring and contemplating, no doubt debating the virtues of an “L Plate” in a frame – now what is all that about – an L plate for god’s sake.

    Rant over

    Once you delve in to the realms of conceptual art then anything goes and some ‘artists’ really push the boat out. It’s very much down to personal preference from then on, you either ‘get it’ or you don’t, or you don’t have any interest in getting it as it appears to just get too ridiculous. Common enough!

    David

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