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400iso, HP5 vs. Neopan

  • Gizzo
    Participant

    I read on someone’s flickr that the film from Fuji offers more advantages compared to the Ilford one.
    exactly what’s the difference between the two?
    It’s a general question, I know, and probably it’s different if we use 120 or 135….
    which one it’s best pushed 1600 iso?

    thanks!

    jb7
    Participant

    I don’t use either,
    but as the Neopan doesn’t exhibit reciprocity characteristics out to 2 mins,
    it might have an advantage, depending on your chosen subject…

    A slow film with zero reciprocity effect rapidly becomes faster than a fast film
    which needs exposure multiplication in low light, or when using small apertures,
    and it’s much easier to meter-

    Regarding pushed film, you really have to take account of the film/developer combination…
    and the choices are broad.
    Speed enhancing developers such as Xtol or Microphen might be a better choice than the one you usually use…
    maybe…

    Gizzo
    Participant

    mmmm now the story becomes complex…. ok then a speed enhancing developer will work as well on ‘nominally fast’ film such as the Delta 3200?

    (I need to study more the reciprocity effect…….it’s not clear to me…)

    jb7
    Participant

    All these Neopan threads…

    Here’s a handy chart- which can be found at
    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/chemistry/bwFilmProcessing/selecting.jhtml?pq-path=14053

    I’ve used T-Max, D76, Xtol, and I’ve just started using HC 110,
    and the chart seems pretty accurate-

    Although the chart doesn’t mention speed enhancing,
    Xtol should give an inbuilt 10% extra speed as standard,
    and along with Microphen, and T-Max,
    might be a good choice for push processing.

    The high shadow detail scores might give a bit of a clue…

    thefizz
    Participant

    If you want the convenience of a liquid developer, then Tmax will serve you well. Its a good developer for pushing films.

    Gizzo
    Participant

    Peter, I was thinking of sticking with ID11/D76 for the FP4 and HP5, and giving microphen a go for the Delta 3200… maybe using it also for HP5 pushed to 1600…

    but now I will consider your suggestion. thanks!

    jessthespringer
    Participant

    I really don’t like HP5, silly to say that I know, but I always seem to encounter some kind of disaster
    every time I use it. So, I don’t, anymore.

    This is Neopan 400 (120) pushed to 1600. The print looks a little better.
    For some reason, when I was making this print, the grain was really difficult to see, I’m not sure why that was.
    Fuji, for some reason don’t make Neopan 1600 in 120 format,
    but it is available in 135, I’ve used it quite a bit and I like it, not as grainy as you’d imagine.

    I’ve used quite a bit of Delta 3200 as well, both 120 and 135. I like it in bot formats, although the grain is much smoother from the 120.

    Tri-x is supposed to be pretty nice when pushed too, but I’ve never tried it.

    Gizzo
    Participant

    hey JTS would you mind telling me as well what developer you use with those film?
    thank you :)

    jessthespringer
    Participant

    Gigi, I used Kodak HC 100, dil b.

    hugh
    Participant

    Neopan has one big advantage over other 400 speed films. It’s cheaper.

    Gizzo
    Participant

    thank you :)

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