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  • JMac-2006
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    Set up a white background and as my camera doesnt have PC port for strobes used a method I found on net called “blank FEL” to fire the two studio strobes as slaves.

    I had models 3-4 foot from background with one strobe 45 degree left and above facing away and bouncing off the gold underside of umbrella. had the second strobe set up to shoot through a white umbrella to the right. Found it hard to whiten the background fully – could be fall off from gold reflected light – maybe need to move models further forward or get third light for background only?

    Any C&Cs welcome as this is first time trying this since getting eos450 last year

    changed the power ratio in favour of the white

    jb7
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    It looks like it’s working well-
    there’s a big difference between the two shots,
    and I much prefer the lighting in the second-
    it looks like daylight with fill-

    Saying that, I find the framing alarming-
    I think the people are all the shot needs,
    and the rotation spoils it, for me-

    I wonder why you did that?
    Is it because you might have thought the faces were somewhat boring without it?
    Was there something you wanted to exclude from the frame?
    Have you seen somebody else do it and thought it was cool?
    Is that what the people want?
    or might it be just easier to exclude everything except the faces, and rotate until they fill the frame?

    Sorry, but I think it’s useful to question these things yourself…

    I think it’s cropped too tightly anyway,
    though obviously, that’s only my opinion-

    Great lighting in the second though-
    if there was a way to control the spill,
    so the background was a bit darker, that might be worth looking at too…

    joseph

    JMac-2006
    Participant

    Thanks Joseph

    Agree the lighting in the first is probably a bit over the top gold

    on the second shot wasnt a plan at all – tried framing portrait and vertical and there was too much space either to side or above – just the way the models were leaning thought rotate to see how it looks and it seemed to jump out at this angle – was using new 50mm 1.8 so didnt have the advantage of quickly zooming hence the tight crop – should have moved back a few inches :(

    going to set up again in a week or so and work on the background as found that the hardest to either whiten or darken without too much spill

    heres another in black and white

    jb7
    Participant

    It’s sometimes a mistake to think that you should fill the frame-
    unless you’ve chosen the proportions of the frame to suit the subject,
    or you particularly want to use that format-

    I find 2×3 a difficult format to shoot portraits on,
    and they will usually be cropped-
    that last picture might be an example-
    I think the crop should be prettty obvious there…

    Mick451
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    5faythe
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    Hi JMac,

    You have had some good expert comment from Joseph so heres
    my non-expert opinion.
    I have never set up or used lights so purely my visual opinion.

    I like the warmer colour in #1 but my eye was immediatly drawn to
    the top where the top of the head is cropped.
    For some reason her eyes seem neither to be looking into the lens nor away but
    could be just me.

    I too found the diagonal positioning of your subjects in #2 odd.
    The engagement with your lens, the lighting on the hair and actually everything
    else seems fine to my eye.

    I really like #3 and with the suggested crop looks really good to me.
    The colour version is probably nice too.

    Well done,

    John.

    JMac-2006
    Participant

    Thanks again for the comments really appreciate it,

    Mick care sharing what processing you did – the crop is as i thought but have tried levels and brightness layers and neither come out like your edited version

    Heres a straight on shot of no.2 although strangely the lighting doesnt look the same even though nothing was changed with set up aperture etc, lens all the same

    IOP
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    JMac-2006 wrote:

    strangely the lighting doesnt look the same even though nothing was changed with set up aperture etc, lens all the same

    Were you using Auto White Balance or Auto ISO??

    Dave

    JMac-2006
    Participant

    IOP wrote:

    JMac-2006 wrote:

    strangely the lighting doesnt look the same even though nothing was changed with set up aperture etc, lens all the same

    Were you using Auto White Balance or Auto ISO??

    Dave

    Hi Dave

    settings for both pics were manual, iso 100, f13 1/200 second using 50mm 1.8 prime lens

    the white balance was on auto white balance ?

    IOP
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    JMac-2006 wrote:

    settings for both pics were manual, iso 100, f13 1/200 second using 50mm 1.8 prime lens

    the white balance was on auto white balance ?

    While this may not be the problem, Auto White Balance can affect your exposure a little bit. In your raw processor have a look at the histogram while moving the white balance slider up and down.

    For studio flash, it’s generally recommended to use a flash white balance as the camera has to react very quickly from a mostly dark scene (the ambient light) to the more powerful flash light,

    Dave

    PS The time difference between shots may also be a factor. If the flash hasn’t had a chance to fully recharge then you will get a slightly darker shot

    JMac-2006
    Participant

    Thanks Dave for your advice will definitely keep mental note to change the white balance. Don’t know how i didnt think of it :(.

    I am still pleased with the results for my first time using studio lights albeit using a haphazard method “blank FEL” to fire them, I know I have a bit to learn still but am enjoying myself. Will post the results of next outing in a couple weeks.

    Mick451
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