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Dublin photographers listen up
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I don’t know why I didn’t think of posting this before.
The newspaper I edit is constantly on the lookout for pictures of local people, places, events etc.
I would be delighted to publish relevant pictures from the following areas:
Swords
Malahide
Blanchardstown
Castleknock
Lucan
Clondalkin
Dundrum
Dun LaoghaireThe down side is I can’t pay anything, but if anyone wants to get published, by all means get in touch.
What I can offer, is €40 for occasional local markings when my snapper is too busy (all the time).Feel free to post here or PM me for contact details.
All the best,
Cormac2 meg JPEGS that aren’t over compressed are ideal.
They can be emailed in and they need to have about a hundred words of caption giving people’s names, place names, dates etc…
Remember that they are for newsprint, which doesn’t require massive resolution.Thanks
Cormac wrote:
I don’t know why I didn’t think of posting this before.
The newspaper I edit is constantly on the lookout for pictures of local people, places, events etc.
I would be delighted to publish relevant pictures from the following areas:
Swords
Malahide
Blanchardstown
Castleknock
Lucan
Clondalkin
Dundrum
Dun LaoghaireThe down side is I can’t pay anything, but if anyone wants to get published, by all means get in touch.
What I can offer, is €40 for occasional local markings when my snapper is too busy (all the time).Feel free to post here or PM me for contact details.
All the best,
CormacHi Cormac. Let me see if I undertsand this correctly you want people to furnish you with pics and about 100 words for a newspaper for FREE with t he carrot that they maybe asked to cover other work for 40 quid when the other photographers are to busy.
Heres an idea why not just pay them to cover that other work that the other photographers are to busy to cover now and actually how busy is the newspaper if they are looking for other photographer to submit work for free
Or am i missing something… sure anyone can submit anything to any newspaper for free …..
Hi Damien
You’re not too far off the mark there, and, strange as it may sound, there are quite a few people out there who would appear to be delighted with the opportunity to have their work published.
The carrot here is not the possibility of a e40 marking, it’s getting published that is attractive, with the very real possibility of featuring on the front page of a well-known metropolitan newspaper.
Obviously I am not asking working photographers who earn their livelihood out of photography to make my life easier, if that was on the cards I would be doing it myself, thank you very much.
But for those who want to see their efforts on the news stands, it makes a lot of sense.
The feedback I have had from one local camera club, for instance, has been terrific, and I really hope I can provide some aspiring photographers with real-world experience and feedback.
Believe me, if there was more in the kitty I would spread the wealth, but, for now this is what I can offer.Many thanks for your input on this thread, and, if it appeared I was simply trying to get something for nothing, I hope I have made my most honorable intentions more clear.
Cormac
Obviously I am not asking working photographers who earn their livelihood out of photography to make my life easier, if that was on the cards I would be doing it myself, thank you very much.
No your just asking people to submit to a well known metropolitan newspaper for free and take away work from the many freelance photographers who do try and make a living out of this type of work , , with the hope of getting their work seen and prehaps getting into more assignments from your paper whos looks for photographers to submit their work for free, its a paradox for sure , I wonder if those you use when they become successful . will then be complaining about how ahrd it is to make a living as a freelance photographer and why the newspapers no longer have fulltime photographers on their payroll, if its a well known paper im sure your freelancers will be happy with this new move from the newspaper Good luck with the new venture
Ok Damien, you obviously have some very strong feelings about this and, not only do I respect that, I would fight to the death for your right to express them.
But if you want to simply nit-pick one line at a time what I am saying, then we will end up in a circular argument that is both pointless and not the intention of this thread.
If you really want to take this apart, very well.In your argument, you are making the enormous assumption that the coverage that I am offering is in some way taking work away from freelance photographers – this is incorrect.
Apart from my one staff photographer, I have a team of freelance photographers that cover events for me week in week out, and that work will never be handed out to people I don’t know just to get it for free, the assumption that I would is insulting.Secondly, I would never hand and assignment to ANYONE and expect them to work for free.
Thirdly, just because I work for a well-known title does not mean that I have ample resources that I am simply trying to save on. In fact I, along with a number of my co-workers, have recently been put on a four-day week and with it taken a 20% cut in pay as well as an unpaid week off in August to save the company money.
Fourthly, it makes me sick to have to use commercial, soulless garbage that PR companies send in to me in order to include something that passes for local colour in the papers – this is my motivation to get members of the community involved.
And finally, if we are to take your argument to its logical conclusion, there wouldn’t be a picture of a single sports club, charity event, debs ball, local fundraiser, family fun day, community street party, schools activity, youth club, cheque presentation, garden fete or sponsored fancy dress walk because people like you wouldn’t get off your a*** to do something for the community, or, for that matter, allow anyone else to.
For your information, I have already had one experienced photographer get in touch who wants to cover events for me at the rate (paltry as it is) that I can offer. Another member of this forum is also more than happy to contribute some local colour as she is studying photography and is happy to be published.
As I said, I fully respect someone who is passionate about his viewpoint, but at least have the good grace and manners to properly establish the facts before you go off on one.
Thanks for spoiling what was intended to be a positive and constructive thread.
Cormac
Iw asnt going to say anymore until this from you
As I said, I fully respect someone who is passionate about his viewpoint, but at least have the good grace and manners to properly establish the facts before you go off on one.
Thanks for spoiling what was intended to be a positive and constructive thread.
Good grace and manners If I offened you in any way I apol . the establishment of the facts are as you first posted.
you want people to submit work photos plus captions but cant pay them, you have solicited this work so you are indeed asking people to work for nothing, it would be a very different story if they approached you but that is not the case.Well of course you ar taking work from freelance photograhers unless you are telling me that your four day week freelancers are earning so much money that they refuse to cover the work you would like to print in the areas of
Swords
Malahide
Blanchardstown
Castleknock
Lucan
Clondalkin
Dundrum
Dun LaoghaireFourthly, it makes me sick to have to use commercial, soulless garbage that PR companies send in to me in order to include something that passes for local colour in the papers – this is my motivation to get members of the community involved.
The photographers for these PR agencies will soon be calling you to work for nothing as they will be out of a job
And finally, if we are to take your argument to its logical conclusion, there wont be a paid photographer to take a picture of a single sports club, charity event, debs ball, local fundraiser, family fun day, community street party, schools activity, youth club, cheque presentation, garden fete or sponsored fancy dress walk so what will your new FREE lancers eat
you are correct in one thing my arse is fat. But is there really a need for personal insults also I do work in the community for free but i would never to it for a how did you describe it O yes a metropolitan newspaper which I assume charges for it’s add space
Let me point out that, as far as personal insults go, I never said anything about fat a***s, just lazy ones.
The insults on this thread started when you decided to make assumptions and accusations about my intentions.
The insults have continued as you have made further assumptions and accusations based on a complete lack of established facts.
I have offered an outlet for photographic enthusiasts to get published at a time and place of their choosing, nothing more nothing less.
This does not qualify as solicitation.
Your understanding of how freelance photographers operate is clearly limited. I never said anything about four-day week photographers – again, an assumption on your part.
Not only are your arguments becoming more juvenile and baseless, they are painting a very clear picture of someone who has a chip on his shoulder and an axe to grind about something.
If it makes you fell any better pal, go ahead and spew your poison all over this thread. It’s cheaper than the therapy you obviously can’t afford because my evil plan to take all the paid work away from photographers is obviously succeeding.
And for the love of God name one paper that doesn’t charge for advertising? Really, what colour is the sky in your world?
Community groups etc get free coverage, businesses pay for ads.IT’S A FREE NEWSPAPER.
The thread is yours, go nuts…
Hi Cormac
Are you looking for photo’s of events in these areas or just general landscape photo’s?
Is the 100 words purely to explain to yourselves whats going on it the photo or is it to written as a mini article to be printed in the paper? Can you pm me details?
thanks, MarkWhat can the rest of us do to help both of you guys. Cormac feels it is ok to use images freely obtained in his paper and Damien feels it is not. Both of you have commercial reasons for your argument but you are both polar opposites.
Probably a case for Gerry Springer………
Sheldon wrote:
What can the rest of us do to help both of you guys. Cormac feels it is ok to use images freely obtained in his paper and Damien feels it is not. Both of you have commercial reasons for your argument but you are both polar opposites.
Probably a case for Gerry Springer………
Lol Jerry Spinger …. its ok now i think we both have had our say on it . Ive nothing personal against Cormac I’m sure he is a lovely guy and is doing what he thinks is best , and I also hold nothing against the guys that will take up his offer and I really hope that it works well for both parties and that they BOTH get what they need from the paper. And I really would not like to appear on Jerry Spinger. Then again I do believe that Springer pays – only kidding Cormac – :lol:
damiend wrote:
..and is doing what he thinks is best , and I also hold nothing against the guys that will take up his offer and I really hope that it works well for both parties and that they BOTH get what they need from the paper.
What Cormac is asking for, is in many ways, no different to what happens here on this forum.
People post their images and info about those images, on this forum, for free.Companies advertise their services on this site because of that, the number of viewers and the interest in topic.
Same thing if you think about it.
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