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  • pihjin
    Member

    Hi everyone. I hope someone can help me with a complex problem I’m having. It kind of comes in parts.

    Part one: I was editing some tiffs in photoshop and getting lovely warm, rich colours in my photos but then when I brought the tiffs into town and got the images printed the colours were much duller. Is this to do with the printer’s colour profile?
    I guess part two added further to my confusion…

    Part Two: I then made a smaller jpeg version of these tiffs to post on the internet. Inside of Photoshop the jpegs look nice and warm still, but, viewed outside of photoshop they have that dull look again. I haven’t knowingly changed the colour profile and have no idea why the exact same Jpeg would look different insde and outside of PS. Again part three lead me further into the web of confusion.

    Part three: in order to show you guys the two versions I’m seeing (warm v. dull). I opened one of the jpegs in PS and took a screen capture. Then I opened the exact same jpeg outside of Ps and took a screen capture. Then, in PS I took the two captures and placed then side by side on the same canvas and saved this. Now I thought and feared than the ‘warm’ side of this comparision image would look ‘dull’ outside of PS. It would have made sense following everything before. But nope. Outside of PS the warm side looks warm and the dull looks dull! I’m now in a huge muddle as to what’s going on.

    Can somebody help me please??
    How can I get my jpegs keeping their warm look outside of PS?

    Here’s the shot. Warm on left and dull on right.

    Thank You!!!!!

    jb7
    Participant

    Complicated stuff.

    First, for pictures posted on the internet, you should convert to sRGB if they’re not already in that space.
    The picture posted here has a Generic RGB profile and may display differently in different browsers.

    Your monitor will use a colour profile too,
    perhaps it’s the generic one?
    Screenshots will have the same profile as the monitor.

    In photoshop, especially if you’re printing, you should be in a wider gamut colour space- Adobe RGB maybe.

    You should set it up under Edit> Color settings.

    You should also set it up to warn you when opening or pasting from a different colour space.

    If accurate colour is important to you, you should think about having your monitor profiled,
    although all the devices you use should be profiled too-

    I’m assuming you’re using a PC-
    It seems you have a mismatch somewhere in your system-
    perhaps someone who knows a bit more about PC’s might be able to help,
    but to me it looks like a monitor profile problem-

    joseph

    pihjin
    Member

    Thanks Joseph…
    It might sound like a silly question but how do I go about getting my monitor profiled?

    Also… I got my photos printed in Conns and saw one of them on their monitor before it was printed and the colours looked good and warm on their monitors too but then printed out dull.

    jb7
    Participant

    Well you should ask them are their monitors profiled.

    You should check out the Proof Setup in photoshop,
    where printer and paper combinations can be soft proofed before printing.

    If the print doesn’t match the soft proof in the shop,
    then something is wrong and they should re-print it.

    Though perhaps you might need to use a better, more expensive printer to get that level of service.

    You can buy devices to profile your monitor, the better ones aren’t exactly cheap-

    I’m sure there’ll be somebody around to advise you on those-

    MartinOC
    Participant

    I had the same problem as you Pihjin with my web photos.
    The solution I found by much googling (didn’t know the technical terms like “color profiles” with which find thing quickly).
    Its as JB says, for the web sRGB is the key.
    One thing that might confuse you is that sRGB is described by PS (in my version) as sRGB IEC61996-2.1 in case you are scratching your head.

    Martin

    Nossie
    Participant

    pihjin wrote:

    It might sound like a silly question but how do I go about getting my monitor profiled?

    Hi.
    To calibrate your monitor you use a tool like this one… http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/525535-REG/Datacolor_S3P100_Spyder3Pro_Display_Calibration_System.html I find LCD Monitors tend to make pics look overly saturated. Add to this problem that you can set the brightness, contrast and colour temp to your own liking and all the while you drift away from what a paper reproduction will look like.
    This gizmo will take readings from your screen and create profiles that windows and ps will use. I think a lot of people notice a dramatic reduction in Magenta and as a result they feel the screen gains a green hue. If you have a printer in-house you can get them to profile the printer too. Of course no matter what it’s going to be damn hard to hold a photo up to the screen and get them to look identical but this does a good job.

    Next you could go to your printer retailer and ask about the machine and get the profiles to match that but I find it’s better to find a place you like and work with them by feel play. Experiment by making it a bit brighter/darker to get used to working with them.

    Good luck with it :0)

    pihjin
    Member

    Thanks for your help on this one everyone.

    I think the problem must be to do with my Photoshop “profile” as my monitors calibration is fine (though I’m sure a recalibration couldn’t hurt).

    Thanks for the help Joseph. The whole profiling process is something I’ll have to try and get my head around.
    Until I do I’ll take screen shots of my Tiffs and save then as Jpegs that Ill use for web so in a way posting this problem has given me a temporary solution!

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