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I’m curious if anyone on this forum holds a high search engine rank for the keywords “Ireland, photographs”.
I mean first page or so. And if so are many sales are generated from organic searches?
Thanks in advance
-KevinRight then, I’ll broaden the topic up a bit. I am curious if any of you look at online sales as a suplemental income source? I am interested because of my personal experience with selling prints online. I keep a photoblog. After about a year it became saturated in google I started selling prints. It was surprising to me, I wasn’t expecting it. Not many mind you, average is one a month and I don’t sell them for very much. But it’s a nice feeling to make a print and send it off.
Also if there are any of you selling prints online have you ever tried to ship a framed print within the country?
I have tried twice to send framed prints and both times ended badly. Now I just send unframed.
Once I used a local bus service to deliver a print to dublin another time I chanced using the post.-best
kevinHi Kevin,
What do you mean by “saturated in google”? It’s not a term I’m familiar with.
Thanks,
Aedan
AedanC wrote:
Hi Kevin,
What do you mean by “saturated in google”? It’s not a term I’m familiar with.
Thanks,
Aedan
Hi Aedan,
Sorry about the technical jargon. Simple really.
Search engine saturation = when a website gains a high ranking for a broader group of chosen keywords.
For instance when your site starts showing up under the following searches – photography ireland, landscape photography in ireland, photographs of ireland etc. you could say it’s saturated.
-best
kevinInteresting-
I just put those search terms into google-Alan Lambe is the highest rank, of the sites I know from here, at no. 4.
Andy Mcinroy at 9, Peter Cox at 25…
Oops, just went back and searched again,
Andy’s jumped to fourth, Alan’s down to sixth,
Peter Cox down to 30th-Photography Ireland is in there a few times-
I only searched the first fifty results,
sorry, but Donegal didn’t come up once-Still, no harm in getting people to click on it, that’s bound to raise the ranking-
I wonder if Google’s search algorithm’s take account of localizatin?
and if they remember what you click on?For example, if you enter those search terms, and consistently click on your own result,
will it raise the ranking for that entry?
Locally, on your computer, or in your area?We’ve had posts like this before,
usually by people who like to publicize their opinion that they’re No. 1-No harm in it, of course, as your signature would lead us to believe-
Welcome to the site Kevin-
Sorry, 5 pages is my limit-jb7
“Donegal, photographs” are the chosen keywords for my site. Google those.
Im really wondering if any of the people you named are members here and if they sell many prints from searches that’s all. Don’t read to much into it but thanks for the warm welcome all the same.
So Andy, Alan and Peter Cox it would be great to hear from you if you are members.
Mick,
As far as page rank, does that really reflect the actual rank of a site for your target keywords. I don’t think so but I’m not 100% sure. I don’t think it takes into account a sites age or backlinks, just the amount of text, links feeds and stuff.If you google “donegal photographs” my site is usually number one out of 2,120,000 results. Im not bragging and I was surprised when it got up there myself. So then I though, well if my site is 1st out of 2,000,000 results and I’m selling one print a month, if it was in the top five for “ireland, photographs” I might sell 7 a month as there are 15,000,000 results for that. It’s only a theory and I was hoping that someone on here would shed some light on it.
Regarding if google take into account location. I think that if your site is a .ie hosted on irish servers you will get points for irish searches.
anyway thanks for the good discussion – interesting points raised.
-kevinSligo photographer, Sligo events photographer most of words where is Sligo and photography terms i should be on 1st position on firefox, diferent story is with IE or opera.
jb7 wrote:
I wonder if Google’s search algorithm’s take account of localizatin?
and if they remember what you click on?For example, if you enter those search terms, and consistently click on your own result,
will it raise the ranking for that entry?Google haven’t and won’t release the details of their search engine algorithm for multiple reasons, most of them commercial I’d imagine.
But yes, the general rule seems to be that the more popular your site is (as in more clickthroughs from a particular search word) the higher ranking it is given. This is part of the algorithm as well for Google Ads (that appear on the right hand side of your search results). They are more specific about that because people are buying the advertising. The reasoning here is that they want Google to be people’s first choice when choosing a search engine, so if 90% of people searching the phrase “Photography Ireland” go to Andy McInroy’s site for instance, it will be top because Google will see that as the page people are looking for when searching for that particular phrase.
PhotoSligo wrote:
Sligo photographer, Sligo events photographer most of words where is Sligo and photography terms i should be on 1st position on firefox, diferent story is with IE or opera.
The browser you use won’t effect your ranking. Maybe you have google results cached in ie?
Jody wrote:
jb7 wrote:
I wonder if Google’s search algorithm’s take account of localizatin?
and if they remember what you click on?For example, if you enter those search terms, and consistently click on your own result,
will it raise the ranking for that entry?Google haven’t and won’t release the details of their search engine algorithm for multiple reasons, most of them commercial I’d imagine.
But yes, the general rule seems to be that the more popular your site is (as in more clickthroughs from a particular search word) the higher ranking it is given. This is part of the algorithm as well for Google Ads (that appear on the right hand side of your search results). They are more specific about that because people are buying the advertising. The reasoning here is that they want Google to be people’s first choice when choosing a search engine, so if 90% of people searching the phrase “Photography Ireland” go to Andy McInroy’s site for instance, it will be top because Google will see that as the page people are looking for when searching for that particular phrase.
Jody from what I understand everything you say is exactly right. Nobody will every know or understand google’s algorithm. But from my own experience even a very large community site with more content than I could ever have can be beaten with the right back links. A sites age and back links must factor highly in the algorithm.
Just noticed this article – sorry, haven’t had much time to lurk here recently.
I put a fair amount of effort into my site to get the natural search results up, but haven’t kept my eye on it lately. I’m sure I could be doing a few things differently. Maybe I should whack Andy over the head and see what he’s doing, although I can probably tell you – he has lots more back links to his site than I do due to his activity in various forums and his media coverage of late.
However, I do get a fair amount of traffic from searches relating to landscape prints. Those don’t translate into many print sales, however. My print sales come from other sources primarily – usually where the person can see the print in person.
Hope that’s helpful.
Cheers,
Peter
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