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Canon 7D or 5D MK2

  • Noel Ruxton
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    Hi,

    First time posting.

    Plan to buy a camera shortly for the purpose of landscape photography. It will either be the 7D or the 5D Mk2. Just looking to get peoples opinions here on which you would consider best for landscape photography.

    I would hope to do some large prints – A3 size – so not sure if this would have a bearing on which camera model is best as they are both high resolution cameras.

    All opinions welcome.

    Thanks in advance.

    Piotr M
    Member

    It depends how wide lenses you would like to use. For example sigma 12-24 gives ca. 120deg (diagonal) and it is the widest FX lens ever except fish eye lenses.
    There is something else that matters even more. Colors. Tonal range in 7d is poorer.

    As a matter of fact, the best results you get when you make several photos and stick them in photoshop. All you need is good tripod, sharp lens with low distorsion (like 50/1.8 – it is damn cheap too), and software to do the workup. Then you could use even cheaper camera like 40D.

    In my opinion 7D is a toy for geeks. It has loads of megapixels, low noise at high iso values, fancy video mode etc., but it misses what really matters.
    It’s maybe a good camera for reporters, but not for landscape photographers.

    brownie
    Participant

    [quote=” Full frame camera make huge difference in colors, sharpness, etc,[/quote]

    I have a 5D and a 7D and I do’nt see any difference in sharpness or colours from them and
    I print to A2 size…sharpness would not come into it anyway as thats down to the photographers
    technique, lens, and post processing and I find the new 7D a great camera (18 megapixels)
    and half the price of the 5D MK 11.

    Noel Browne.

    photos
    Member

    I have both 7D and 5D also (and 1D mk4)….now I’m just showing off :D only kidding

    Anyway – my point is that the 5D mk2 is superior to the 7D but doesnt justify the extra expense, both are quality cameras and the difference could be spent on quality glass !!

    I’m not a convert but can totally understand people who claim full-frame cameras are a step better than cropped sensors, if you are doing landscapes you sometimes want to get everything in.

    you could always just pick up a secondhand 5D mk1 and if you feel the need to upgrade after playing with that for a couple of weeks/months you probably wouldn’t loose much in resale.

    have you used either of these cameras …or just going by reviews etc ? if you get the opportunity borrow or rent each for a week to play with and see which one feels better for you – sometimes its about how the camera makes you feel and how it performs for you.

    brownie
    Participant

    Have to agree about the lenses…use top quality L lenses
    and the results will be there for everyone to see.

    Noel Browne.

    sasar
    Member

    I’ve got 7D and it is a great camera indeed. I would go for it instead of 5D mk II and use the extra cash on a better lens.

    mr enjoi
    Participant

    First priority should be glass. Thats the L range for canon. Landscapes: you would want the 14mm 2.8L, 24mm 1.4L or the 35mm 1.4L.
    They’re the lenses that would basically separate your photos from the rest, given that you’re competent enough to use them…not saying your not.

    The problem with the 7D, isn’t really quality. But it’s the crop factor, the 14mm turns into a 22mm, 24mm into 38mm and the 35mm into a shocking 56mm.
    So if you’re really into landscape, you should get the fullframe 5DMK2 to really take advantage of those lenses and get really wide.
    What camera do you have now btw?

    annken
    Participant

    hi, i am back!!!
    well never really got up to speed with the Canon D50 eos, but during the week there was a photoshoot of myself for the Health supplement of the Irish Times next tuesday.
    the photographer had a D5 Canon, oh boy it felt good in the hand, chunky and controllable for a person with a disability.
    Brenda let me hold it without the lens. I was so impressed with it.
    any opinion on this as i am disabled and got the former one mentioned because of WEIGHT in particular.
    I think i might change, would i be an eggit. discovered my cous in London, a great photographer and disabled also has this camera.
    any views on this for a person with hand probs. greatly appreciated.
    now all have to see me on the cover of the health supplement and wow what a great shot from Brenda, i dont think anyone has taken such a good un. i was sitting cross legged on my bed, yes i can still do that!

    scas
    Member

    7d at the end of the day is only and will always only be a really good aps-c format camera, 5d2 is full frame, with worse autofocus and a lack of bells and wistles that a pro would miss, but at the end of the day reproducing much better quality images. if you’re printing small-up to 17″ then apart from the subject separation it makes no difference, but if you’re making big prints always full frame is the better option.
    don’t get me wrong the 7d is a fine camera-it’s just not a proper full frame camera. once you go full frame you’ll never go back
    always print them and the bigger the better-nothing like a 44″x66″ print on your walls

    Piotr M
    Member

    scas wrote:

    7d at the end of the day is only and will always only be a really good aps-c format camera, 5d2 is full frame, with worse autofocus and a lack of bells and wistles that a pro would miss, but at the end of the day reproducing much better quality images. if you’re printing small-up to 17″ then apart from the subject separation it makes no difference, but if you’re making big prints always full frame is the better option.
    don’t get me wrong the 7d is a fine camera-it’s just not a proper full frame camera. once you go full frame you’ll never go back
    always print them and the bigger the better-nothing like a 44″x66″ print on your walls

    Read carefully. It is for landscape shots. AF is not important, because you use huge depth of field anyway.
    7D is for geeks, photo reporters and paparazzi.

    markcapilitan
    Participant

    Do you want full frame or not…thats the question, as both will produce huge size prints and as said AF isn’t a major factor with landscapes. The full frame makes a huge difference when shooting portraits with L glass (and you really need L glass to get the best from it), and it’s mega for landscapes, but you could get away without it. I’d never go back to crop factor though.

    Button
    Participant

    I was just going to ask this question this morning. I was looking to upgrade my camera from 400D. I was initially looking at the 50D and then 7D but now I’m wondering should I go full frame.

    markcapilitan wrote:

    The full frame makes a huge difference when shooting portraits with L glass (and you really need L glass to get the best from it), and it’s mega for landscapes, but you could get away without it. I’d never go back to crop factor though.

    Mark I knew it was better for landscapes but didn’t realise it was better for portraits. I don’t understand why it is better ? can you please explain?

    b318isp
    Participant

    If you find yourself using your wide lenses (which is most likely for landscape) get the 5D. If you often use the zoom end, stay APS-C.

    markcapilitan
    Participant

    It’s all to do with the bokeh – A shallower depth of field may be desirable for portraits because it improves background blur, whereas a larger depth of field is generally desirable for landscape photography. And with a full frame sensor, the bokeh is much better, but the L lenses (primes in particular) really stand out.

    Button
    Participant

    markcapilitan wrote:

    It’s all to do with the bokeh – A shallower depth of field may be desirable for portraits because it improves background blur, whereas a larger depth of field is generally desirable for landscape photography. And with a full frame sensor, the bokeh is much better, but the L lenses (primes in particular) really stand out.

    Ah I see thanks for that. Thats the problem I might be able to stretch to a full frame but with a L lens I would be really pushing it :D There is always the Lotto

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