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  • aoluain
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    UK Gov nationalises orphans and bans non-consensual photography in public.

    The Digital Economy Bill : what’s yours is ours.

    http://www.copyrightaction.com/forum/uk-gov-nationalises-orphans-and-bans-non-consensual-photography-in-public?page=1″ onclick=”window.open(this.href);return false;

    here are a few tasty excerpts from the article,

    ‘…will allow the commercial use of any photograph whose author cannot be identified through a suitably negligent search…’

    ‘…Copyright in photos is essentially going to cease to exist, since there is no ineradicable way of associating ownership
    details short of plastering your name right across the image…’

    ‘…So Flickr, Google Images, personal websites, all of it will become commercial publishers’ photolibrary…’

    cathald
    Participant

    Very interesting Alan I just had a quick glance over it and will get a better read tomorrow

    So we will have to cover our photos with watermarks
    and do street photography with point and shoot cameras because if you have a ”big camera”your a pro :lol:

    The Chairman
    Member

    Not that it’d affect someone like me, but does this mean even if you do not live in the UK, if someone in the UK accesses your photos online and cannot find you as the owner after the ‘suitably negligent search’, and proceeds to use them, you cannot take any action because they acted legally under UK law?

    As the article says, surely this violates international copyright laws?

    deeorgan
    Participant

    yikes! crazy stuff. next it will be illegal to even own a ‘professional’ camera.. in the public’s best interest of course!

    eunified61
    Participant

    did I see somewhere that this doesn’t apply to film photography in public.I would say if you went to claim any money off the collecting society after your picture has been used your next visitors will be from revenue

    MMX
    Participant

    I don´t really see this as a big problem – the quality and resolution of 99,99 % photos found online is simply too low to be used for professional work. Of course, if you were stupid enough to publish your photos in full resolution and 16bit tif format, then you should be worried.

    aoluain
    Participant

    what about your low-res images being used in newspapers,
    journals and magasines? they dont have to be high res for that!

    PeteTheBloke
    Member

    It says on Wikipedia that the “Orphan” clause was dropped before the bill was made law.

    miki g
    Participant

    I wonder when the British government took over ownership of the internet? This has to be illegal in every country not under British rule. :shock:

    brightredshoes
    Participant

    Cant you just include your name and email address in the EXIF information before you post it online somewhere?
    Flickr for example allows for the display of this info if its available, and also it would be tagged with your username and account.
    As for google images etc, just wait to see whats arund the corner, in a few years time, its likelikely that photoshop and lightroom will be hosted on the cloud, and you’ll need to post your images to their servers in order to edit them in the first place.
    I wouldn’t panic at this stage, its early days yet.

    MMX
    Participant

    aoluain wrote:

    what about your low-res images being used in newspapers,
    journals and magasines? they dont have to be high res for that!

    Newspaper publish news and they want to be first to publish them, so I don´t think they will wait for photos that other people took. And if something unexpected happens, people who captured it usually come on their own accord to earn money and become famous.

    PeteTheBloke
    Member

    It says on Wikipedia that the “Orphan” clause was dropped before the bill was made law and I’ve
    no reason to doubt it. Has anyone read the final statute? Andy?

    Not Pete the bloke
    Participant

    “……..suitably negligent search….” Should negligent in fact be diligent??

    Lovelife
    Participant

    That article is pure nonsense, i cant believe that that is a law that is going to be passed. Or already has as the case may be since that was written, does anybody know for sure?

    At least however it is the UK, but does that mean it will come to Ireland since we are in Europe and lately our country is like a flock of sheep! Not the people but the government seem to have no mind of their own and copy everything every other country does so just curious.

    This is just crazy, why would anyone believe that it was ok to take someones photos and pass them off as their own?
    It is mad that if you were to see your photo published somewhere and went and could proove that it was your own that they could proove that a simple little search did not show you up as the owner and therefore all your rights have just been flushed down the toilet? That is pure nonsense.
    Best bet now is to stick your name right across the middle of every image you post online.

    Whoever came up with this idea for the law obviously stole somebodies work and published after doing a crappy little search and obviously got caught out because the owner came forward, prooved it was his and then took a huge court case out over it and the idiot who stole it in the first place lost aload of money and is now going around like a bear with a sore arse. (excuse my language but it doesnt make sense that any normal person would turn around and say…. Hey lets ban pictures and destroy photographers copyright, i dont think so)

    Sorry but i think the article is pure Lunacy!!

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