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CineManParticipant
It is nothing to do with max Clifford, this pic is just an illustration of what i want to achieve http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/max-clifford-penis-size-evidence-sees-trial-jury-sent-out-by-judge-for-laughing-30106592.html” onclick=”window.open(this.href);return false;
I want to shoot a piece of street art surrounded by seats, litter bins and with gaudy shop signs in all the background angles. Could i get that blurred effect with and 18-55 Nikon D3200 kit lens?
miki gParticipantDepends on what the widest aperture of the lens is & how far away from the subject (Minimum focusing distance of the lens) and how big the subject is.
CineManParticipantmiki g wrote:
Depends on what the widest aperture of the lens is & how far away from the subject (Minimum focusing distance of the lens) and how big the subject is.
At 55mm, the aperture can be set no wider than f/5.6. Min focus distance about 11 inches. Subject is as big as an adult human. i cannot get a blur background but i am a beginner. Slight blur yes but cannot get rid of the crap in the background like the neon signs across the road and the litter bins about ten feet away
shutterbugParticipantPost processing may be a way to go, even the most basic of software would give
You a softening/blur facility, Picassa which is free to download would do it for you.
Also adding a vignette would reduce the background nasties.CineManParticipantI blurred it a bit with photoshop but you can still make out names of shops in background. In the first pic in link in my OP no words can be made out. Would this lens http://www.sammccauley.com/Product/Nikon-AFS-DX-MicroNikkor-40mm-f28G/21832/2231.10.0″ onclick=”window.open(this.href);return false; do it
40mm on my lens is f5.3
How do i make the words this lens point to url
shutterbugParticipantThat lens would be better as the widest aperture is 2.8, but for less money
you could get a 50mm 1.8 lens, can sometimes be picked up for around
€100, super little lens that everyone should have in their camera bag!CineManParticipantshutterbug wrote:
That lens would be better as the widest aperture is 2.8, but for less money
you could get a 50mm 1.8 lens, can sometimes be picked up for around
€100, super little lens that everyone should have in their camera bag!Ok thanks will look into that
CineManParticipanthttp://www.camera.ie/products/nikon-55-200mm-f4-5-6-g-vr-af-s-dx” onclick=”window.open(this.href);return false;
I would like opinion on above lens. The widest aperture on the lens is 5.6 at 200mm. I want a zoom anyway and wondered how it would do for my street art project. It does not say minimum focus distance
shutterbugParticipantWidest aperture is f4 that would be at 55mm, you will get reasonably blurred background
with that lens. Optically not the best of lenses, still stand by 50mm prime!CineManParticipantOptically not the best of lenses, still stand by 50mm prime!
Do you mean in general or for this project. if in general what is wrong with the lens
shutterbugParticipantFor the money it is an ok lens, and as I said f4 will give you a reasonably acceptable blurred background, what I find with telephoto lenses that try to cover to big of a range ie 55mm to 200mm it will let you down somewhere along that range, you will find it is ok at maybe 100mm and fall off towards the the ends. So you will be happy with images you take at 100mm and be disappointed with 55 or 200.
Maybe I was unlucky with the one I had, but I didn’t get the images I wanted from it, maybe others that have it could comment more favourably.CineManParticipantmarkst33Participant50mm Lens as stated above is something everyone should start with. You will learn more about composition with it as you the photographer have to move rather than just stay stationary and zoom in and out. Also with an aperture of 1.8 upwards to choose from you can learn a lot about DoF. It will be sharper than a zoom too as its a prime lens so your image quality will be better.
So if you want to progress as a photographer then this is the way to go.
MurchuParticipantThe issue you’re facing is the inability to blur the background with your 18-55, which is a product of the lack of wider f-stops on it, and the wider focal length nature of the lens. To get shallow depth of field you need either wider apertures or longer lenses, and in that regard the 50mm f1.8 is a good recommendation, but the cheaper version for €100 will not autofocus on your D3200, and you will need its newer incarnation, the 50mm f1.8 AF-S, to do so. On your Nikon DX camera, that 50mm will become a short telephoto, something that can be useful, but a little specialist in nature. Bear that in mind if you don’t think you would have much use for the lens outside this purpose.
I think a much better alternative if you have no intentions of using the 50mm for dabbling in portraits, and other work that lends itself to a short telephot. would be to look at the 35mm f1.8 which will help you blur the background a little, as well as also being a handy little lens for general shooting. Cheap enough too at about €200, or less if you shop around or seek out a used version. In that ballpark, you may also find a nice little third party f2.8 zoom, like the Tamron 17-50, but that would be more a replacement to your current lens, as opposed to something to supplement it like the aforementioned prime lens options.
To see what depth of field you will get with what focal lengths and apertures on your camera, check out depth of field tables like those at dofmaster.com. Should put most of the options on the table into context, and if they will fit your purpose.
By the way, extremely odd link as an example of what you were hoping to illustrate. The web is full of shallow depth of field images, and was surprised to see the link you used to illustrate your original question.
CineManParticipantBy the way, extremely odd link as an example of what you were hoping to illustrate. The web is full of shallow depth of field images, and was surprised to see the link you used to illustrate your original question.
it was the first one i came across that day.I was not looking for one to illustrate my question but when i saw it i just thought it would. Thanks for the input
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