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  • Mark
    Keymaster

    I’ve tended in the past to just use the standard PS Add Noise filter (4-5% on monochromic) to b+w images for that fim grain look and feel.

    Anyone else doing anything else ?

    IOP
    Participant

    You’ve mentioned before that you’ve used Picasa in the past (only for Windows, but free from Google). What do you think of the ‘Film Grain’ effect? I’ve tried it along with the ‘Filtered B&W’ to get some cool results that would fool most eyes.

    Thorsten
    Member

    You should take a look at the Virtual Photographer plugin by OptikVerve Labs. I would say “One of the best Photoshop Plugins around…” but unfortunately PHOTOSHOP CREATIVE Magazine beat me to it :D It’s rare enough to find something as good and as useful as this for zero cost.

    Swordie
    Member

    My method:

    After you have converted your image to mono look (whichever method you choose):

    Image > Fill > 50% Gray

    Set layer effect to Soft Light

    Filter > Noise > Add Noise > 10% / Gaussian / Monochromatic – these values may vary depending on the image and the effect required.

    Mark
    Keymaster

    Thanks some good ones there to try out.

    Thorsten those free plug-ins are very interesting for sure.

    Mark

    Allinthemind
    Participant

    Shot some 35mm B&W film against an out of focus mid-grey background and scan it in. You can boost the contrast of it easily enough and zoom in and out to change grain size. copy onto your photo and set blend mode to soft-light (or hard-light), you can get a realistic effect and once you have a few pieces of film scanned, you can change the effect to mimic different ISO films.

    Si

    ciaran
    Participant

    Those poor engineers… multiple man years of effort in trying to reduce noise in sensors and you guys go add it back in :lol:

    davenewt
    Participant

    Yeah, people have been doing similar things converting colour images back to black & white. who’d do a thing like that, huh ciaran? :lol:

    ciaran
    Participant

    davenewt wrote:

    Yeah, people have been doing similar things converting colour images back to black & white. who’d do a thing like that, huh ciaran? :lol:

    Point taken :oops:

    LoGill
    Participant

    davenewt wrote:

    Yeah, people have been doing similar things converting colour images back to black & white. who’d do a thing like that, huh ciaran? :lol:

    :lol: that put you back in your box .. he he he

    L

    davenewt
    Participant

    >chuckle< sorry dude, couldn't resist that one!

    joe_elway
    Participant

    This is how I do it:

    Mehod 1
    1) Add a new layer.
    2) Set it to 50% gray (edit – fill – 50% gray)
    3) Set it to over lay (layers window – the drop down box).
    4) Goto filter – add noise. Somewhere between 5 and 20% noise. Make sure it’s monochrome. Gaussian works more like film noise.
    5) Review your picture.
    6) Adjust noise by changing the opacity of the new layer.
    7) Flatten the image (right click the original layer).
    8) Save.

    Method 2
    1) Screw up original exposure
    2) Adjust using levels, shadow, highlights
    3) Get one noisy, noisy picture.

    Method 2 seems to be the one I use the most.

    Swordie
    Member

    joe_elway wrote:

    Method 2
    1) Screw up original exposure
    2) Adjust using levels, shadow, highlights
    3) Get one noisy, noisy picture.

    Sorry Joe, I don’t understand what you are saying.
    Any chance you could explain it in a step-by-step example?

    Roberto
    Member

    I am using Photoshop Elements for this.
    The best results so far I have when I change RGB to Greyscale and go to Filter – Texture – Grain
    Mostly go for soft and 18-25 intensity. The contrast deppends on the photo.
    I like this grain much more than noise but none of them can beat the film grain, yet.

    Allinthemind
    Participant

    Swordie wrote:

    joe_elway wrote:

    Method 2
    1) Screw up original exposure
    2) Adjust using levels, shadow, highlights
    3) Get one noisy, noisy picture.

    Sorry Joe, I don’t understand what you are saying.
    Any chance you could explain it in a step-by-step example?

    Hehe, I think he’s saying that if you underexpose your shot by a stop or so, then pull up the brightness, yu can clearly see the “natural” noise in the shadows.

    The main difference between digital noise and film noise (grain) is that you can normally see the film noise (with mono film anyway) in the highlight areas, whereas with digital it’s in the darker areas.

    Si

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