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A couple of studio portraits from a newbie….
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Hi Ross,
First one of Helen,
Consider keeping her nose inside of the far cheek. it will de-emphasise the nose. You’ve lit her hair beautifully.
Second shot, I wonder if it would benefit from the main light being further to camera-left, to give a shadow on the near cheek; narrowing the loer part of the face and emphasising the cheekbone.
Good to see you here :)
Si
Hey Ross,
Nice shots.
Noses can be tricky but its the first thing Helen will look at! Those ladies can be pernickity when it comes to reality. I gave it a bit of a rough retouch which would work well if you tried it on the original file, hope you don’t mind!
Iwould also use amuch deeper and darker red on the background.I like the Yolanda, shot too, did you smooth her skin tones?
Burt wrote:
Hey Ross,
Nice shots.
Noses can be tricky but its the first thing Helen will look at! Those ladies can be pernickity when it comes to reality. I gave it a bit of a rough retouch which would work well if you tried it on the original file, hope you don’t mind!
Iwould also use amuch deeper and darker red on the background.I like the Yolanda, shot too, did you smooth her skin tones?
I think the original one is more interesting and appealing. Her nose is an interesting character feature and doesnt need to be altered by airbrushing in my opinion.
gerardk wrote:
I think the original one is more interesting and appealing. Her nose is an interesting character feature and doesnt need to be altered by airbrushing in my opinion.
I’m with Burt on this one! I think the altered photo looks better.
“I think the original one is more interesting and appealing. Her nose is an interesting character feature and doesnt need to be altered by airbrushing in my opinion.”
I would have to disagree. The subject of the photo is a highly stylised fashion type image of a girl. Under those conditions the objective is always to make the model look as good as possible. She is obviously wearing lots of make up and jewellery so why stop there?
The question is do you think she looks better in the original photo or the edited version? In my experience, if i offered the model the choice, 100% of the time she will choose option 2.Its a common studio shoot problem and its the common action taken.
If it was a shot taken on the street in a reportage style then it would be other wise.
Burt
Thanks for your input Burt. I probably should have ensured the nose stayed inside the cheek in the first place, but your effort to correct in photoshop is commendable, although it does look slightly as if someone punched her on the nose, lol!
The Yolanda portrait is entirely untouched apart from sharpening – there was a make up artist in tow, and the results reflected that.Helen has a lovely nose, lol!
Looks like the whole of IMAPP has exported itself now.. welcome to the forum Brandyman :)
First shot is pretty nice. It’s difficult to go wrong taking a photo of someone as pretty as Helen.
Second shot for me is WAY over cooked in Photoshop. Her skin, eyes, lips all look plastic and air brushed. Even her eyes are soft and pretty much lumps of black. The pose also looks really false and cliche. Try to avoid cropping at joints too!
ciaran wrote:
Looks like the whole of IMAPP has exported itself now.. welcome to the forum Brandyman :)
Second shot for me is WAY over cooked in Photoshop. Her skin, eyes, lips all look plastic and air brushed. Even her eyes are soft and pretty much lumps of black.
Thanks for the welcome Ciaran – I wondered where you had disappared to, lol! The Yolanda shot has had no cooking whatsoever done to it apart from sharpening! There was a make-up artist in tow, and the shots were for her portfolio as well as Yolanda’s. Yolanda has naturally dark eyes, probably the darkest I have seen. Again, no photoshop on this one apart from sharpening:
If I was shooting this one again, I would know to use a hairlight to get more separation from the black background. On a print it looks better, but on PC screen the separation is harder to see.Woops :oops:
I’d sack the makeup artist so :) Apologies, but the skin just looks so “clunky” so I assumed it was PS.
Burt wrote:
gerardk said “I think the original one is more interesting and appealing. Her nose is an interesting character feature and doesnt need to be altered by airbrushing in my opinion.”
I would have to disagree. The subject of the photo is a highly stylised fashion type image of a girl. Under those conditions the objective is always to make the model look as good as possible.
I can see that its a fashion-type shot. The part I dont agree with is that she ‘looks as good as possible’ with airbrushing on her nose to make it less prominent. To me its a more interesting and appealing and more ‘characterful’ in the original.
Burt wrote:
Its a common studio shoot problem and its the common action taken.
Kind of knew that bit already :)
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