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Another oul’ wretch
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I feel I’m kind of hogging the forum with the numbers of images I’ve posted over the last few days.. so apologies.
And now, since I apologised, let me post another :) There is a panel competition coming up with my camera club where people have to submit 6 “panel” images, which fit together. I already posted image 1 in the “Filthy Habit” thread, so here’s shot no.2 This weekend, I’m off out to get 3, 4, 5 and 6 :)
And the first one, in case you haven’t seen it
I see what you mean.
You’re thinking of starting a Hand Model Agency-
I think it works very well as a series, best of luck with the rest-
You’re trying to con us here – that’s the same guy as in the first photo, only he’s had a shave and an eyebrow trim……. :lol: :lol:
Don’t know why, but personally, despite similar composition and content, the top one doesn’t have as much appeal as the original image below. What do you think? Just something about it makes him more intimidating than the other man – I would happily slip the other guy a few quid…this one I would be wary of taking a few quid off me, if that makes sense?? :lol:
I think that is quite a good thing though Brandyman, because if they were both the same it would be boring. And straight away both images have conjured up different reactions from you….
The clarity around the eyes is very intense in the first photo, he has that ‘Fagan’ look about him while number two has that uncle albert from only fools and horses vibe going on. I think these will make a great series….
Jeeeez Ciaran I hope I don’t see my face in your series…!! Anyone going to the pub this weekend stay indoors!!!
jb7 wrote:
I see what you mean.
You’re thinking of starting a Hand Model Agency-
I think it works very well as a series, best of luck with the rest-
Thanks jb. Thankfully I’m not starting a hands agency, because if I was, considering the condition of their hands, I think I’d go out of business VERY quickly.
brandyman wrote:
You’re trying to con us here – that’s the same guy as in the first photo, only he’s had a shave and an eyebrow trim…….
It’s kind of scary, but if you overlay the two images on top of eachother (see below), the two guys are very similar :shock: which is really what I’m looking for in the series anyway :)
brandyman wrote:
Don’t know why, but personally, despite similar composition and content, the top one doesn’t have as much appeal as the original image below. What do you think? Just something about it makes him more intimidating than the other man – I would happily slip the other guy a few quid…this one I would be wary of taking a few quid off me, if that makes sense??
I’m actually really pleased with the second image, perhaps even more than the first. I don’t think he has as much character as the first gentleman, but the photo just works better for me. It’s not often I’m happy with what I shoot, but these two shots have given me a great deal of satisfaction. I just hope now I can find some other willing victims :)
MTBIreland wrote:
straight away both images have conjured up different reactions from you….
Yeah I’m delighted about this too :) Hopefully all the shots in the series, assuming I can get more, will be able to do the same.
MTBIreland wrote:
I think these will make a great series….
Thanks :)
MTBIreland wrote:
Jeeeez Ciaran I hope I don’t see my face in your series…!! Anyone going to the pub this weekend stay indoors!!!
If you look anything like these two.. don’t worry, I’ll hunt you down eventually :)
Ciaran, I’d be wary of entering two very similar images in a panel. It might demonstrate a lack of creativity, although I realise that is not the case. Where in the panel do you intend placing these images? How do you plan to arrange your panel – one single row or two rows. These, and others, are considerations you must take into account in putting together a panel. It must work cohesively and you’ll find that in a lot of cases, putting in a bunch of award winning images will not in itself guarantee you a winning panel. Panelling (especially in the club scene) is something of a black art although there are guidelines that will help – ask Mark Sedgwick for advice if you can, although he may not offer any as it’s a competition. Best of luck with it!
Thorsten wrote:
Ciaran, I’d be wary of entering two very similar images in a panel. It might demonstrate a lack of creativity, although I realise that is not the case. Where in the panel do you intend placing these images? How do you plan to arrange your panel – one single row or two rows. These, and others, are considerations you must take into account in putting together a panel. It must work cohesively and you’ll find that in a lot of cases, putting in a bunch of award winning images will not in itself guarantee you a winning panel. Panelling (especially in the club scene) is something of a black art although there are guidelines that will help – ask Mark Sedgwick for advice if you can, although he may not offer any as it’s a competition. Best of luck with it!
Thorsten, you’re breaking my little heart here :( I’ve had little or no exposure to “panels” before, apart from one presentation of someones panel for their FIPF. That one, to me.. was a case of extremely similar images. However, apart from that, my definition of a panel, is completely self derived. I just assumed that 6 shots (or what ever number) along the same themes, same exposure, look, feel etc. would make a good pane for a competition?
Incredible work Ciaran. What more can I say. Looking forward to seeing the complete panel. If your looking for a ‘not-quite-as-oul’ wretch with a smoke stuck in his face I just might be your man. I can stop shaving for a few days beforehand if necessary :lol:
Rob.
I reckon they’re incredible photos. Two like this is good, 6 would be awesome. Just imagine 6 craggy, beaten faces all with eyes as different as these two.
ciaran wrote:
Thorsten wrote:
Ciaran, I’d be wary of entering two very similar images in a panel. It might demonstrate a lack of creativity, although I realise that is not the case. Where in the panel do you intend placing these images? How do you plan to arrange your panel – one single row or two rows. These, and others, are considerations you must take into account in putting together a panel. It must work cohesively and you’ll find that in a lot of cases, putting in a bunch of award winning images will not in itself guarantee you a winning panel. Panelling (especially in the club scene) is something of a black art although there are guidelines that will help – ask Mark Sedgwick for advice if you can, although he may not offer any as it’s a competition. Best of luck with it!
Thorsten, you’re breaking my little heart here :( I’ve had little or no exposure to “panels” before, apart from one presentation of someones panel for their FIPF. That one, to me.. was a case of extremely similar images. However, apart from that, my definition of a panel, is completely self derived. I just assumed that 6 shots (or what ever number) along the same themes, same exposure, look, feel etc. would make a good pane for a competition?
Sorry about that Ciaran. I don’t mean to confuse you – just trying to help you in putting together a strong panel! Unfortunately, the thing about panelling is that it can vary vastly, depending on what the panel is for. You mentioned an FIPF panel and that all of the images were quite similar. Indeed you will often find this is the case for “F” panels. You will find the complete opposite for “L” panels – they generally contain quite a variety of images. The reason for this is simple enough. For an “L” panel, one must demonstrate that one has a solid grasp of all the fundamentals of photography and the only way to realistically do that is to show a panel of images which demonstrate a sound command of lighting, exposure, composition and subject matter. An “F” panel is an entirely different matter – anyone seeking a fellowship is already expected to know the basics and more of photography, to the point that these basics are deemed to be understood and the person has moved well beyond that and developed a recognisable style of their own. In demonstrating that they have a very distinct style, “F”- applicants invariably show a panel with images that may at first seem very similar.
I suspect all of this is totally useless to you because you aren’t looking for a distinction but entering club competition. Personally I’d still be inclined to put together a panel that highlights ability across a range of subjects rather than evidence of having developed a particular style. Having said that, I think either option is equally valid in your case as you have developed a recognisable style. The best advice I can give is go with your gut-instinct!
There is something I really like about the skintones/colours in these 2 shots. May I ask how it is achieved?
Ciaran
They are really good images and should be judged individually even in a panel competition so i would not be over concerned about any similarity in the image, the judge should see beyond this. I have noticed in competitions and on other fora recently an increase in the number of photographers submitting square images. Both of your images will also work in square format. Making the white of the eyes a little brighter is also an option.
Love to see the full panel when you have it completed.
Best of luck
Once again, thanks for the comments on these. I have 4 now for the series and I’m pretty pleased with all of them. Only 2 more wretches to go :D
Thorsten wrote:
I suspect all of this is totally useless to you because you aren’t looking for a distinction but entering club competition. Personally I’d still be inclined to put together a panel that highlights ability across a range of subjects rather than evidence of having developed a particular style. Having said that, I think either option is equally valid in your case as you have developed a recognisable style. The best advice I can give is go with your gut-instinct!
It’s not even so much gut instinct now Thorsten, it’s more a case of having spent time shooting for this panel, I’m not prepared to go back to the drawing board. So gut instinct it’s going to have to be :) P.S. Did you get my mail or did it end up in your junk mail again?
paperdoll wrote:
There is something I really like about the skintones/colours in these 2 shots. May I ask how it is achieved?
I desaturated to -55 in the RAW conversion, which leaves a greyish skin tone. Basically, heading towards monochrome, but not the whole way. Then in PS, I added a multiply layer (25%), which adds a hint of red back into it.
Eddie wrote:
They are really good images…Both of your images will also work in square format. Making the white of the eyes a little brighter is also an option. …Love to see the full panel when you have it completed.
Thanks Eddie. I have considered a square crop but for the other images I have in the series (I have two more now :D) it wouldn’t suit, so in an attempt to keep them all cohesive, I’ll probably stick with the oblong crop. When I have the final series, I’ll probably stick it up on my wesbite and I’ll no doubt post a thread then. Thanks for the comments.
JohnnyMcMillan wrote:
Ironically came across that shots last night
Absolutely superb image Johnny. Not sure where the irony is though? Oh and thanks for commenting on my shot BTW.
No no, the shot isn’t mine, I just came across it on the net earlier on…
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