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cathaldParticipant
Was in taxing the car yesterday and thought to myself why bother
Does the road tax on cars not go towards the upkeep of the roads
The roads up here have not been gritted since new years eve morning
when they ran out of grit and I know alot of other counties have the same problem
Is it not better to have to much grit than to little,it wont rot or go out of date
tight fisted council as usual(bet there driveways are well gritted)Rant over
Cathal
aoluainParticipantSand,
dont we have plenty of that? as far as I know that was the traditional
way of treating the roads in icy weather.ah dont get me started on car tax!
randomwayMemberWinter tyres, that’s what you need. There shouldn’t be any problem even in 20cm of snow with a normal front wheel drive car if it has good tyres.
Gritting is for wussies.
aoluainParticipantrandomwayMemberPractical is not crashing and dying… just my opinion. In other European countries people do change their tyres seasonally, they just get on with it and don’t blame the state for eveything. 5cm of snow shouldn’t cause any problem whatsoever on the roads. And as far as I can see, the cold part of the winter lasts for 3-4 months. Winter tyres are also a great help on cold roads, so you could theoretically drive on them half the year.
Just my two cents.
cathaldParticipantNot just the roads what about the footpaths
Old people falling and breaking bones because the footpaths are iced overRe snow tires..You can hardly afford normal tires because of vat and taxes
Go into a tire depot and ask for snow tires and yee will get a funny lookaoluainParticipantnfl-fanParticipantThe weather is changing that’s for sure…
June, July and August have more or less p*ssed rain for the past 3 years. This year we’ve had all the major flooding and now this cold spell. The cold we’re seeing at the moment could be the norm going forward.
An Estonian chap mentioned winter tyres to me too. If I thought this type of weather was going to be the norm going forward I’d gladly buy a set and put them on my car for whatever period necessary. If they were only used for short periods every year then they’d probably last and work out as good value in the long run.
Was driving down the road from our house this morning and at one point when I had to brake on a bit of a hill the car had second thoughts about stopping.
On top of that… between the cold and two days of non stop tropical rainfall here the past few weeks the roads are in a terrible state. We’ve had some potholes around and I’m not joking when I say you could bury a child in some of them they’re that bad.
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miki gParticipantI think NASA will be taking their next lunar shot on Irish roads. They are not potholes, they are crators. :lol: :lol:
justaguyParticipantWe once forgot to tax the van of the shop for over a year.
That year I ran into a roadblock at least 3 times, and the gards failed to see it too
So yeah why botherWillemMemberOh ace! A rant! My cents:
– Having lived in England for so long I’m pretty horrified about how much they rob you for owning a car over here. At least the ministers get Limos and private jet flights (booked at the same time as their only partially refundable first class tickets) to help with their ‘busy, responsible and important jobs’™
-I think the fact they have run out of salt is dsgusting. Th M50 is frozen solid tonight. I think it’s worse that no heas will roll, people are so used to governmental underperformance they sigh an accept it.
-Salt costs about €40 a tonne (according to t’internet) – that’s not horrific is it? Given the billions thrown at the banks 100,000 tons would cost €4m and be approximately 5 years’ worth of average winters. I would take about 50,000m^3 of space which means if you stacked it 4m high it would fill an area less than 100m x 100m. Despite the fact that it’s mined all over the UK it has to be imported from Spain.
-while winter tyres would help the problem I’ve just experienced first hand is that the snow has been compressed to ice, which is awesomely frictionless when coeated in water. You have nothing to purchase on. If it was like Finland with deep snow, winter tyres would solve the problem. Ice is a different matter. Even snowchains are useless ‘cos there’s not enough snow.
I think the only thing for it is to write to your TD and complain. It’s just unnacceptable that man stood on the moon 41 years ago and we can’t leave the house because some eejit is incompetent and can’t schedule gritting. Snow and frost in winter is hardly a surprise to anybody, is it?
….And…. relax….. :wink:
shutterbugParticipantI would agree with the winter tyre thing, having witnessed them in action in Norway
where they are mandatory from September……yes I know they get it a lot worse than
us but the roads there in early December are the same as they are here at the moment
and the winter tyres were fantastic, just tiny little studs embedded in the tyre prevents
a whole lot of slipping and sliding, and nfl is right they would last for years.randomwayMemberYou know the machines that can be attached to tractors and fertilizer is spread by them on the fields? Could those be used to spread salt and sand on the roads? If so, farmers could do the gritting in winters like this, hired and paid by the state for those few days. That would be an income for the farmers and a big saving for the state as well.. just an idea.
Alan RossiterParticipanthired and paid by the state
There’s about 12% of the population hired and paid by the state. Give them a shovel…assuming that it doesn’t affect their “extra curricular activities”.
Alan.
WillemMemberYou know the machines that can be attached to tractors and fertilizer is spread by them on the fields? Could those be used to spread salt and sand on the roads? If so, farmers could do the gritting in winters like this, hired and paid by the state for those few days. That would be an income for the farmers and a big saving for the state as well.. just an idea.
They’ve been offering, but the councils won’t allow them ‘because of insurance’. The army haven’t been used because they haven’t been asked. There’s at least fifteen tonnes of grit next to the road by my house that nobody has been spreading, even though cars are sliding. Is it for us? Is it for council use later? It’s a farce.
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