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Are your pics :-
Art
Nice Pics
What the customer wants
I think if they arent the last one then you are wasting your time, what do you think? :)
Hmm…
Depends on who your customers are and what you’re own philosophy is!
First and foremost you should please yourself. If you’re a professional photographer, you should still be doing this. Hopefully, when customers come to you to hire you it’s because they also like you’re work and not the fact that you’re giving it away for free!
I think I’m gonna need to have a few more boxes if I’m gonna make a tick-
My pics are a combination of what the customer wants and my own personal style. They hire me not only because they like what I can do, but they like the potential things I can do for them-stepping out of the box so to speak.
jb7 wrote:
I think I’m gonna need to have a few more boxes if I’m gonna make a tick-
Yeah i know what you mean, i should have put another category such as ” crap ” then i could have ticked that box for mine :D
I think there’s a good image in here, but you’ve gotta be a bitmoremodest with your logo if you’re gonna let us see it-
Dont worry all the critism points which were given on here are being altered by the end of next week by the young man who did the site for me to MY spec, so it was my fault.
I please myself and I’m not in it for the money, although I am fairly self-critical. That said, I’ve earnt the odd few quid off the odd pic, and was very happy to do so. I’m one of those people for whom the fun goes out of it when you have to deliver the goods. No weddings or kid portraits for me!
I suppose I would like to think that mine would be nice pics that the customer wants. Art is great – and I love it and would love to be producing the best art ever – but when you have a wife and 3 daughters and the only income is photography then business kicks in and you produce what the customer will pay for ……. regardless of what the end product may be.
My shots are a way to get away from my otherwise rather technical life, so in a way I consider them “artistic”.
But all in all, once they’re a lot better than two years ago, quite a bit better than last years and better than last months, then I’m happy :)
I got away with calling myself a “newbie” for quite a while, but as I’m slowly coming up on the 3 year mark :shock: I’d like to think my shots are of reasonable quality but with plenty of room still for improvment and plenty of time to get there.
I don’t think I’ll ever stop being a newbie. There’s always going to be someone out there with something I can learn.
I think most people have an odd view of what art actually is, ie. its not art unless it lives up to a certain aesthetic standard set by others or ‘masters’, or it looks/sounds/reads beautifully. In my own humble opinion art is simply an outer expression of your inner mind, something you create that can be percieved by others as uniquely yours, no matter how subtle the uniqueness of it, it can be beautiful, ugly, confrontational, etc. etc.
If thats the case then the only thing it needs to live up to is that it is something that offers a glimpse into how you view the world or relate to it, if it achieves that then it is art and needs no further qualification, it meets your own unique standard and is perfect in itself. Even snapshots are recording something that motivated you personally to record it in a certain way, from a certain viewpoint.
Whether it is appreciated by others and by critics is a different thing altogether, how well you transmit your ideas and perceptions through the ‘art’ piece depends on others being able to pick up on it too, if your particularly adept at doing that then your ‘art’ will in turn be succesfull. Whether its of higher worth or not because of that is the great debate!
Some people see photography purely as a craft, ie. buying the perfect gear, calculating perfect exposure, arranging a perfect composition, waiting for perfect light etc. etc. But theres much more going on, creative judgements as well as calculated ones. I’ve seen pics from people who have absolutely mastered the technical side of photography better that I could ever dream of and yet their photos are dull and unmoving, we’ve all seen the happy snapper taking ‘almost’ breathtaking pictures too. Photography we can all appreciate ideally combines both craft and art. If your just going through the mechanical motions of capturing an impression of light on a piece of film or electronic sensor then maybe what you do is not art but if you involve your mind in creating a picture it probably is art, no matter what you claim!
CianMcLiam wrote:
I’ve seen pics from people who have absolutely mastered the technical side of photography better that I could ever dream of and yet their photos are dull and umoving
Just to be clear, I didn’t have any photographers from here in mind!!
Cian, you are spot on. I believe that the less technical your brain is the more creative the results. I have seen stuff from camera phones, taken by people that didn’t think about the process, that have been incredibly creative. Sometimes, I think, we worry about lighting, exposure, saturation etc and it stops us thinking, or not thinking, which is really the key. Getting even more philosophical, photography is a fair reflection of our own fear more than our ability to realise that we can be as mad as we like. It’s easy enough, once you do the maths, to get it “technically” right but where does that leave the soul.
That’s why I never comment in the “fashion” section here. I just can’t see the point, but that’s me I guess.
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