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Diana… Help?
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So I recently aquired a Diana, but could use a little help with a few things… Any help appreciated.
I have not used 120 film before, I think I managed to load it ok, but am not sure when the film starts? How many frames on a roll of 120? 16?
Is the start of the frame when the number is in the little window?
Sinead.
No of frames on 120 film depends on what size frames your shooting. Think the Dianas size is 4 × 4 which would give 16 shots. The deluxe version is 6×6 so this would be 12 shots
The start of the frame is when the number is in the window i would think, similar to the 120 Holgas
I’m sure Dave and Eddie will be along in the next while to let you know for sure… Have Fun
M
See links ->
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/120_film
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_cameraI will check it out for you Sinead. I have a book on toycameras and will dig out anything that might be helpful. As far as i know its16 on the original Diana and the numbers appear in the red window at the back.
This could be a totally dumb question… but I never claimed to know anything about film so I’ll ask:
If you can use different size frames.. in which case you could be shooting 12 or 16 shots.. how do you (or the camera) know when to stop winding from #1 to whatever position #2 is going to be?
Hi Sinead, yes, when you see the number 1..in the little window..your frame is centered. When you spooled the film and wound it, you would have seen the word START..and then little thingies..and then a 1. You are ready to shoot.
Depending on the film manufacturer, it can be easy to miss the 1st shot since some show the “1” as a “|”.
This photo on Flickr from Ian Tindale shows what some films look like so it should give you an idea on what to look for (including the “look out here it comes” arrows).
http://flickr.com/photos/iantindale/623093857/
nfl-fan wrote:
…how do you (or the camera) know when to stop winding from #1 to whatever position #2 is going to be?
Some medium format cameras will stop at the next shot. But not this one. On this camera you have to look through the window and stop winding when you see the next number.
Some medium format cameras will stop at the next shot. But not this one. On this camera you have to look through the window and stop winding when you see the next number.
Cheers Dave.. but if you’re using 120 and depending on the frame size you are using which can result in 12 or 16 shots… surely then position #2 can vary depending on the frame size?
nfl-fan wrote:
Cheers Dave.. but if you’re using 120 and depending on the frame size you are using which can result in 12 or 16 shots… surely then position #2 can vary depending on the frame size?
Yes position changes based on the frame size. With medium format cameras the camera backs that store the film know how much to wind on, you can use different back for different sized frames. eg i have one back for doing 6×6 shots and another back specifically for doing 6×4.5 shots, the backs know how much to wind on
When using a Holgas or Diana you have to use the red window. Based on the frame size the window will appear higher or lower on the back of the camera. A 120 film real has paper at the back of the film. Printed on this paper are the frame numbers printed at different heights (see Daves link to the picture) on the film so you can just see the numbers for the frame size you are using through the red window
M
Thanks everyone for the help on this, think I have it sussed :) That was a helpful link Dave, cheers for that and the contact too!
OK… One more question, what happens when I get to the end of the film? I’m assuming it does not have to be wound back on to the spool like 35mm?
Sinead.
Ok, another question… Saw a little note on someones flickr about 126 film, any of you use that?
S.
I’ll just say thanks for helping me on my bit and split.
Apologies Sinead for hijacking!
Cheers all.
Jess the Springer wrote:
Thanks everyone for the help on this, think I have it sussed :) That was a helpful link Dave, cheers for that and the contact too!
OK… One more question, what happens when I get to the end of the film? I’m assuming it does not have to be wound back on to the spool like 35mm?
Sinead.
When you get to the end just keep winding until you cannot see the paper through the red window anymore (the wind on winder thingy will get loser and you will know you have it all wound). You don’t wind back, you are basically just transferring the film from one spool to another. Don’t throw out the empty spool you will need this for the next role of film, I did this when i started once:-(
M
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