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Dodgy meetering with Circular Polarizor

  • Mr.H
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    Here’s a question that someone may be able to help me on. I have a problem on my 40D where occaisionally it meters incorrectly and seriously underexposes, to the point of ‘black photo’s’. This tends to happen under certain ‘filter’ conditions.

    Generally this happens when I use my Lee circular polarizor, (and possibly sigma 10-20mm) but incocsistently. I assume this is based on positioning of the filter and certain lighting conditions. (However I should add that this happens under normal daylight conditions)

    At this stage I workaround these issues by dropping into manual mode with a set aperture and trial and error on the exposure time. Generally this is fine as my photography rarely depends upon split second timing.

    So the question which I guess is more for curiosity than anything else. Does this happen to anyone else either with the 40D or with any other camera? I guess there is a tipping point when using filters where metering starts to become inaccurate, but I am surprised that a single polarizor in daylight can trigger this.

    Cheers

    Gary

    miki g
    Participant

    Hi Gary. Never had that problem myself. Could it be that your meter is faulty? What metering settings are you using? A polariser shouldn’t cause much of a difference in the metering on its own, are you using other filters at the same time? I have used two polarisers together to deliberately cause the light to be blocked to almost black in cross polarisation effects, but I wouldn’t imagine other filters causing the same effect.
    The only other case I can think of is, if your polariser is a linear one and not circular (not the shape of the filter itself)

    Mr.H
    Participant

    Thanks miki g.. I did think of the linear polarizer issue myself but it is definately a circular polarizer. My conclusion is also a faulty metering system, which seems to be intermitent. Additional filters (ND grads) don’t help the issue, but the polarizer seems to be the key element in all this. As I say I’m not too bothered as I can rectify the situation when it does occur by using manual exposure settings .. just wondered if anyone else was having similar issues.

    davekeogh
    Participant

    Mr. H. I have exactly the same issue with my 40D. I have a Hoya Pro polarizer on my 70-200mm F4 and it constantly underexposes! Getting quite sick of it to be honest. I have heard that a polarizer will drop the exposure by about 1/3 of a stop, but with it on the camera it can be as much as 1 or 2 stops.

    Regardless of metering mode the same things happens over and over again. Last time I was shooting a track day, and had to switch to manual exposure which is a pain, because as the clouds shift it was sunny and then overcast the next minute. Plus also I need the polarizer to reduce the glare from glass.

    Mr.H
    Participant

    interesting Dave… so probably a fault with the 40D metering, although your problem sounds a bit more continuous, whereas mine tends to be more random. Are you able to dial in a 2 stop exposure compensation and then shoot as per normal?

    Gary

    sean1098
    Member

    I know how to solve the problem………..BUY A NIKON….. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Sean.

    ossie13
    Participant

    sean1098 wrote:

    I know how to solve the problem………..BUY A NIKON….. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Sean.

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    davekeogh
    Participant

    Mr.H wrote:

    interesting Dave… so probably a fault with the 40D metering, although your problem sounds a bit more continuous, whereas mine tends to be more random. Are you able to dial in a 2 stop exposure compensation and then shoot as per normal?

    Gary

    I generally up shooting in manual mode, I do alot of panning shots so I do like the control, as frustrating as it can be…

    I’ll post up some metering shots later…

    Mr.H
    Participant

    Funnily enough I wouldn’t be averse to a switch the the other side… although my credit card would be.

    miki g
    Participant

    Have any of you contacted Canon about this problem? Are both of you using the same brand of polariser? There could possibly be a firmware update which could solve it. Just a thought

    Mr.H
    Participant

    Thanks for the thought Miki g… I’ll try that.

    Gary

    brownie
    Participant

    Hi Dave and Gary…I use a 40D as well and often use ND Grads but do’nt have a problem
    with these and metering…Dave…a polarizer which I use as well will definately lose you more
    than 1/3 stop of light, depending on the strength of them they will make you lose up to 2 stops
    of light but the meter should compensate for this on the end result. They can be fooled and
    if using a circular polarizer the metering will change as you turn it around to get the effect you
    want.

    Noel Browne.

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