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eco friendly darkroom chemicals
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found this today and thought id share for anyone who is interested.
http://www.greenphotochemistry.com/
Food for thought, will have to study this and see if I can change processes or chemicals for a greener darkroom. Thanks Kevin
I’ve http://silvergrain.com/ on the radar a while, no sign of any reseller outside of N America or Japan unfortunately.
I was hoping Silverprint London would get interested in it. Might be a good business idea for someone….
Fintan wrote:
I’ve http://silvergrain.com/ on the radar a while, no sign of any reseller outside of N America or Japan unfortunately.
I was hoping Silverprint London would get interested in it. Might be a good business idea for someone….
ah shitty, that sucks. wonder if a supplier here would maybe order a good bit of it to get the ball rolling. id really like to try it because my hands get ****** from using the toxic stuff.
I’ve never had a reaction to the chemicals I’ve used-
although the warnings are always on the bottles-I suppose if I was using them for prolonged periods there might be more of an issue-
There are some worse photographic chemicals than those used to develop film,
but I haven’t used them yet…Regarding the environment, I don’t think the quantities I use pose much threat to the environment-
maybe not even as much threat as having them flown in from the US-If you want to use an ascorbic acid developer, you could try Xtol-
there is usually alternatives, the trick it to know exactly which part of the process is giving you the problem.
heres one possible solution;
http://www.shutterbug.com/techniques/film_processing/0903sb_coffee/
its definatley the fix that is more noticeable when i put a bare hand in it, it stings for quiet some time after in the open woounds on my hands. the developer i know dose its bit aswell but not as bad as the fixer.
and regardless of if you get a reaction to it jb7, even helping to stop that small bit go down the drain to help the enviroment just that bit more is what you should be thinking about and not have this general ignorance towards it that you dont really give a shit. sorry if that seemed very blunt.
The words “least toxic” don’t make me completely comfortable to be honest. It was talking about ascorbic acid, which is ok, but it didn’t say what else do the silvergrain.org chemicals contain. It is also unknown how much energy and materials are wasted in the process of making these new chemicals… etc, etc. Environmentally friendly BS… I will go on and use my highly toxic, carcinogenic chemicals and look death straight in the eyes until I see a convincing report.
People should me more concerned about stress if they want to live long, and stuff that they consume in big volumes if they want to take good care of the environment. That’s my personal opinion.
grif04 wrote:
its definatley the fix that is more noticeable when i put a bare hand in it, it stings for quiet some time after in the open woounds on my hands. the developer i know dose its bit aswell but not as bad as the fixer.
and regardless of if you get a reaction to it jb7, even helping to stop that small bit go down the drain to help the enviroment just that bit more is what you should be thinking about and not have this general ignorance towards it that you dont really give a *****. sorry if that seemed very blunt.
No need to apologize, we’re all grown up here, and I can spot ignorance too.
Before you start telling me what do do about the disposal of relatively small quantities of relatively benign chemicals,
maybe you should take your crusade to those that are really damaging the planet.
If that’s what really concerns you-There are ways to limit your exposure to chemicals-
for printing, the use of tongs is good for me-
I seldom get any chemicals on my skin.For developing film, even 8×10 film in open trays,
it isn’t necessary to get your hands wet.However, if you do enjoy splashing around in chemicals which you know are irritating to you,
you could try wearing latex gloves.
Just be careful you don’t get a little prick in them.jb7 wrote:
grif04 wrote:
its definatley the fix that is more noticeable when i put a bare hand in it, it stings for quiet some time after in the open woounds on my hands. the developer i know dose its bit aswell but not as bad as the fixer.
and regardless of if you get a reaction to it jb7, even helping to stop that small bit go down the drain to help the enviroment just that bit more is what you should be thinking about and not have this general ignorance towards it that you dont really give a *****. sorry if that seemed very blunt.
No need to apologize, we’re all grown up here, and I can spot ignorance too.
Before you start telling me what do do about the disposal of relatively small quantities of relatively benign chemicals,
maybe you should take your crusade to those that are really damaging the planet.
If that’s what really concerns you-There are ways to limit your exposure to chemicals-
for printing, the use of tongs is good for me-
I seldom get any chemicals on my skin.For developing film, even 8×10 film in open trays,
it isn’t necessary to get your hands wet.However, if you do enjoy splashing around in chemicals which you know are irritating to you,
you could try wearing latex gloves.
Just be careful you don’t get a little prick in them.lol no problem man, yea im so silly for not even thinking about using gloves. come off it man – obviousley i wear gloves 90% of the time but im so sensitive to the stuff, a single drop of it irriates my arm or hand for a week. And in a realistic working enviroment and darkroom, gloves arent always the first thing on your mind especially when running through prints or in a certain flow of work.
i find it funny that you think you need to see people who are doing “bigger damage” stop before you should. its a sad concept you have on the matter – its up to yourself to realise it and fix it i suppose but hey, im not one to judge, id just be happy to do my (even if its small) part and so should you. passing along the site was just an effort to share it with others who are interested, not to start a discussion on why should we bother. grow up kid.
Randomway – i understand what you are saying – and its an interesting question about the energy used to create the less toxic chemicles. I have no idea, i can just presume its alot less then the toxic chemicles as its eco friendly, im sure there is some criteria for it to come under that title.
Anyway
no need to push on with more debates and half arsed arguments – its up to yourself to use it or not – im just sharing what i found.
For what its worth, one of the members here checked with one of the environmental agencies
regarding chemicals down the drain and if I recall correctly he got the go ahead as the actual
amount of harmful chemicals were tiny.Seemed to me that the environmental cleaning systems in place were able to cope with them.
Thats a guess, not a fact… :)Personally I use Agfa Neutol when printing. Seemed like one of the more environmentally
friendly developers out there.Mark wrote:
Personally I use Agfa Neutol when printing. Seemed like one of the more environmentally
friendly developers out there.hows it in terms of irritation to skin do ya know?
Not sure to be honest Kevin. I’ve had no problem with it, then again I’ve
not had any problem with others either.Anyhow, good link that. Very useful. I have a copy of the Alternative Darkroom Cookbook
too, not sure if there are any good receipes in there for skin-friendly chems.
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