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IR 35mm film
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Guys
after all the talk of IR, i have an urge to try it
I have a 35mm eos 1 camera and want to put some IR film it it, having never done it before I am looking for ideas of what film to buy and where to get it from
any help would be great
The three 35mm ones i have tried are (available from http://www.silverprint.co.uk)
Ilford SFX200 – good ir sensitivity, needs opaque filter, mild grain
Rollei IR 400 – very good ir sensitivity, needs opaque filter to get best results, can get results with a dark red but not as evident, least grain of three
Kodak HIE – excellent OTT ir sensitivity, needs no filters for ir effect, very grainy, but totally mad effects. see Marsdens site http://www.marsdenarchive.comThe Kodak above is no longer being made since Christmas, its only what is is stock so get it now if you want to try it
If you are only going to try one try the Rollei IR 400. Get the pack from silverprint.co.uk. You get 5 roles and a small bottle of Rollei RHS developer although other developers can be used (TheFizz can recommend). I rate this film at ISO12 without the opaque/r72 filter then take the shot with the filter put on. Bracket a stop either side till you understand how it works. Developing then i use Rollei RHS 1+7 for 6 minutes, It scans really well on the Epson V700, i think you have the V750
Peter (the fizz) is the film IR Expert on here I am sure he will be able to add to what i have put above
M
7dayshop have Kodak HIE film
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_1&products_id=8360
Never shot IR film, looks interesting
Why would I need a filter?
Stop that Martin, your embarrassing me :oops:
At present there are three IR films available:
Ilford’s SFX which is a near Infrared film but still very good if not a little too grainy. Widely available.
Rollei IR 400 is stronger than the SFX but only available online. Finest grain of the three.
Efke IR 100 is stronger that the Rollei but only available online.Online suppliers I have used are http://www.silverprint.co.uk, http://www.retrophotographic.com and http://www.freestylephoto.biz which I found to be the cheapest even with postage from the U.S.
Since then I have discovered http://www.macodirect.de which unfortunately is only in German at present but they will export, so email them if you don’t know how to order. They are the cheapest I know of and they also sell the opaque filters.
Kodak’s HIE is the strongest IR film of them all but as already mentioned, it has been discontinued but you may find some still.
The opaque filters block certain amounts of visible light but pass Infrared light (depending on which filter you use). The filters can be expensive but you can buy an Ilford SFX film pack which gives you two or three films plus a plastic opaque filter (695nm) which will work on any of the films mentioned above. Its a cheap way into film IR. This filter is the weakest one you should use on the films above except the Efke or HIE which still give good IR effects with a normal Red 25 or 29 because they are more IR sensitive films.
Peter
I forgot to mention that we will be running a one day introduction to Infrared Film Photography workshop on 16th August. Full details can be seen at http://www.fpworkshops.com
This workshop will give participants a good understanding of the different IR films available and the various filters required as well as exposure and development guidence.
Peter
thanks for the advice will get some film and give it a go
i will be interested in the workshop too
thefizz wrote:
I forgot to mention that I will be running a one day introduction to Infrared Film Photography workshop this summer, probably June. The date will be confirmed soon on the FP Workshops web site.
This workshop will give participants a good understanding of the different IR films available and the various filters required as well as exposure and development guidence.
Peter
This workshop has now been set for August 16th. More info here: https://www.photographyireland.net/viewtopic.php?t=17180
culchieboy wrote:
7dayshop have Kodak HIE film
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=777_1&products_id=8360
Never shot IR film, looks interesting
Why would I need a filter?
Thats a mad price for a roll of film, Peter’s US Elke supplier looks the best value by far.
Hi,
I have used the ILFORD SFX200 and found it ok.
There are a few musts with using this film its not a true INFRARED film but the effects can be achieved using a deep red filter and a tripod.
I used the Cokin P series filter system and because of the deep red filter you really have to use a tripod as it reduces the shutter speed.
I found it a bit cumbersome as you have to manually focus and meter before you apply the filter and when applied you cannot see through the viewfinder!
You really have to use this on days where there is plenty of sun with clear or big fluffy cloudy skies!I have an IR page on my site with some samples put through the IR filter on photoshop CS3 !! (sorry i know this ia a film forum)
hope this helps!
my camera doesn’t accept IR film. Why not? Can anyone tell me more about a nonIR film that creates a similar effect.
Is it a plastic camera?
You could try looking up Ilford SFX-
used with a deep red filter, or its own filter…I picked some up in Silverprint in London recently,
but haven’t used it-
It has extended red sensitivity-Anyway, Martin will be along shortly-
j
my camera doesn’t accept IR film
why not?
If like JB7 said its a plastic camera “Ilford SFX” or “Rollei IR 400” will work fine in a plastic camera (both available from http://www.silverprint.co.uk) You will need an opaque filter like an R72 to get an infrared effect though, the red filter will give little or no IR effect (unless you over expose the film and pull the film in development, think this will work anyhow)
The more IR sensitive films like “Kodak HIE”(not being made anymore but still in some shops) and “Efke IR820” would possibly fog in a plastic camera
M
I don’t really know why it doesn’t accept it. It just said that in the manual. it’s a Canon Elan 7.
So could I use it?
Aimee
the most likely reason for your camera not accepting IR film is that some modern film cameras use infra red light to regulate the amount the film is advanced by.
from what i understand the light ‘counts’ the sprocket holes as the film is transported.
wile normal film is not sensitive enough to be affected by this light, IR film is.as a result, while you would be able to use the film, you would probably experience a certain amount of fogging on the film.
hope this clears it up
:) :)
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