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Killarney
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Comments very much welcome. Especially anything on b+w conversion. PS is not a strong point of mine :(
I think that the grass over the lake is probably a bit distracting ?Anyhow here is the photo in colour and after a b+w conversion
Freel free to edit.
Thanks
Mark
HI Mark,
I’m a bit confused as to the subject of the photo, the house? There is a nice balance of tones and a sky that could be made very dramatic.
The B&W may benefit from some “Local contrast” adjustments.
You might like to curve the picture to add contrast to the grass (say) and then mask out the rest of the picture, same with the sky.
Si
Yes, the house. You’re correct, it doesnt stand out. I must find a good book on PS especially with photography/b+w in mind.
thanks !
Hi Mark,
The converted image is certainly better than the original which is a bit flat so I think you’ve got the right approach here. I personally think that the gap in the trees and the mountain are a strong enough subject in thermselves. The house is a little small in the frame to act as a strong focal point.
Have you considered a square crop from the RHS?
I would convert the image to a square crop and then apply a little clockwise rotation for balance. Then you could boost the cotrast just a tad to give the image a bit more oomph.
Andy
Mark,
I’ve mixed feelings about this for a number of reasons. The shot as given is a little flat (God I hate that word).
The horizon is slightly off kilter (waits for the HP to come and get me). So fix that then:
crop the image top and bottom so that it becomes almost panoramic in dimensions. You’ll probably need to perform surgery right and left after the rotation too.
You could up the contrast a little in the colour version and see if that gives it any life. I’d also adjust the curves or the levels (I’d have to see which one is better before deciding) and then convert to black and white. As the conversion stands, it’s a little overly grey, in my opinion. My tendency is to do the contrast before the conversion; I don’t know how other people feel about that.
I do actually like the shot, but if I had taken it, the above is pretty much what I would do with it. Mind you, I don’t always have 100% success with the black and white conversaion so I have a lot of sympathy with you
Thanks for the advice. Si, thanks for the email !
Anyhow, here is my latest effort after 20-30mins playing with it. Will spend longer later.
I’ll also try the square and panoramic crops, both of which I’m sure will look good also and will repost them when done.
Yep its still a unlevel but I’m going to ignore that for nowMust admit I enjoyed using the layers and masks, whole other world has opened up for b+w conversions.
Cheers for taking the time out to help guys.
Mark
Look at that sky! I much prefer this version Mark (is it green?) Not sure about the vignette effect but the clouds, trees, grass and house are all much better defined.
Si
lol, you’re right, green (no idea how that happened). Actually I’m colour blind and would never have noticed that. Just did the old dropper thing and you’re correct. I was just playing with the vignetting (first time using it), will do a comparision later.
Would I just convert to greyscale or something or how would I remove the colour cast ?
thanks
MarkDone, removed the vignetting also. Will start again with it tomorrow when I get some time.
Has been a very useful exercise all told.Thanks again :)
Ooohh great clouds. I’d consider buring them at 4% exposure to make them even more moodier. It’s worth shot to see what it does for you.
That’s a great location there. Give it another month and the colours are fantastic. There’s a location over to the right when you can get close to the water and get a clearer shot of the boat house. I tried it last year but was clueless, didn’t have the required polariser for the conditions and was shooting in JPEG.
I saw the below on Boards.ie a while back. It’s a set of conversion charts for simulating B/W film types:
Agfa 200X: 18,41,41
Agfapan 25: 25,39,36
Agfapan 100: 21,40,39
Agfapan 400: 20,41,39
Ilford Delta 100: 21,42,37
Ilford Delta 400: 22,42,36
Ilford Delta 400 Pro & 3200: 31,36,33
Ilford FP4: 28,41,31
Ilford HP5: 23,37,40
Ilford Pan F: 33,36,31
Ilford SFX: 36,31,33
Ilford XP2 Super: 21,42,37
Kodak Tmax 100: 24,37,39
Kodak Tmax 400: 27,36,37
Kodak Tri-X: 25,35,40And these basic ones:
Normal Contrast: 43,33,30
High Contrast: 40,34,60
and at last a generic BW: 24,68,8. 50,50,0 and 25,75,0 are good too.Thanks.
You know I might have some shots from over on the right, must look. Will have a go with the 4% exposure
also.Thanks some great info there Joe. Nice one. Would be good in the tutorial area too I think.
Cheers
Mark
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