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  • Stewbyyy
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    Here are some shots I got from the first round match between my school, Mount Temple, and St. Fintan’s.

    They were shot with: Canon 40D + 300mm F/4L. Canon 60D + 70-200mm F/2.8L. I shot in RAW, like I do with all things.
    I have been shooting sports a bit recently but don’t have much experience. I’d appreciate any feedback you have for me. I’m still only 17, so I have plenty of time to learn and improve!

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    paul
    Participant

    A very decent selection of images there.

    Not sure why you made the last one B&W when all the others are colour. Keep them the same, would be my view.

    Well done and keep at it.

    Stewbyyy
    Member

    paul wrote:

    A very decent selection of images there.

    Not sure why you made the last one B&W when all the others are colour. Keep them the same, would be my view.

    Well done and keep at it.

    I have a colour version, but people seem to prefer the B&W version much more, so I thought it might have been better.

    Thank you for the comments!

    voicu
    Participant

    1. try not to chop body parts if possible.nice action shot but even better with the whole right boot in it
    2. shoot tight, crop tighter. get rid of the half fella on the left hand side and the orange thing on the lower right corner
    6. listen to paul and keep the set either all in colour or all in b&w. at the end of the day there is lots of pride in rugby and part of it are the club colours

    nice set, congratulations!

    sndipo
    Member

    Nice set. I agree with voicu’s advice but also that try to keep in mind where the Sun (source of light) is, i.e. see the difference in tones of pictures 1 vs 2 and 3. You’ve captured a good few nice emotions. I like the B&W shot, I think it works..I think the players know well enough what colour jerseys they were wearing ;)

    Stewbyyy
    Member

    voicu wrote:

    1. try not to chop body parts if possible.nice action shot but even better with the whole right boot in it
    2. shoot tight, crop tighter. get rid of the half fella on the left hand side and the orange thing on the lower right corner
    6. listen to paul and keep the set either all in colour or all in b&w. at the end of the day there is lots of pride in rugby and part of it are the club colours

    nice set, congratulations!

    I went back and checked that first photo, turns out I cropped it and cut off the boot in the process (didn’t realise I did this). The uncropped version has a crooked horizon, so I can see what made me crop it, I must have been working in a rush and not gave any thought to the boot. Is this a better shot? It’s as wide as I can go, that’s pretty much how it was shot.

    Thanks for the other advice!

    sndipo wrote:

    Nice set. I agree with voicu’s advice but also that try to keep in mind where the Sun (source of light) is, i.e. see the difference in tones of pictures 1 vs 2 and 3. You’ve captured a good few nice emotions. I like the B&W shot, I think it works..I think the players know well enough what colour jerseys they were wearing ;)

    The first picture was earlier on in the match and it was much sunnier, plus I accidentally over exposed the shot by about a stop. I’ll try to keep a closer eye on the tones when both shooting and editing. Any advice for dealing with the changing sun throughout the game? Should I try to keep the tone of all the photos the same or is it alright for them to change a bit?
    Thanks!

    voicu
    Participant

    what is done is done, forget about trying to correct – you can spend all your life trying. the best is to learn from what is done, learn from mistakes, learn from the good parts and move on and improve. let’s say first shot: it is important to have all the body parts in but is important to keep the horizon and other lines straight too. didn’t happen this time? no problem, you’ll know next time.
    when it comes to colour tones, you will always have a problem for daylight matches as the light changes during the match. personally i don’t have a problem with colour tones but it is good if you can keep the tones as close as possible. you won’t get it the same for the whole match as the players are constantly moving from light to shadow but you can compensate this in pp if you want. to me is a personal taste.

    sndipo
    Member

    Yes, personal taste it is. I just find it too..varied if there are really warm and then cold pictures. Usually don’t even think about it but this time the first two shots already are contrasting each other regards the tones. I believe the obvious help would be moving around the pitch but as this is hardly ever possible..maybe try play around with the different settings. Other than that, just have to deal with it indeed.
    Also the colour of the pictures is not as important as the composition (in my opinion), don’t be beating yourself up for that now. Try get all the horizons right and limbs in the shots first ;)
    Well said, voicu, I shall take advice from that myself :)

    Stewbyyy
    Member

    voicu wrote:

    what is done is done, forget about trying to correct – you can spend all your life trying. the best is to learn from what is done, learn from mistakes, learn from the good parts and move on and improve. let’s say first shot: it is important to have all the body parts in but is important to keep the horizon and other lines straight too. didn’t happen this time? no problem, you’ll know next time.
    when it comes to colour tones, you will always have a problem for daylight matches as the light changes during the match. personally i don’t have a problem with colour tones but it is good if you can keep the tones as close as possible. you won’t get it the same for the whole match as the players are constantly moving from light to shadow but you can compensate this in pp if you want. to me is a personal taste.

    sndipo wrote:

    Yes, personal taste it is. I just find it too..varied if there are really warm and then cold pictures. Usually don’t even think about it but this time the first two shots already are contrasting each other regards the tones. I believe the obvious help would be moving around the pitch but as this is hardly ever possible..maybe try play around with the different settings. Other than that, just have to deal with it indeed.
    Also the colour of the pictures is not as important as the composition (in my opinion), don’t be beating yourself up for that now. Try get all the horizons right and limbs in the shots first ;)
    Well said, voicu, I shall take advice from that myself :)

    Okay, thanks guys. I’ll keep an eye on the shots as I’m taking them, I did use a monopod as I have a habit of messing up my horizons, I must have tilted it to the side a bit when shooting.
    I do find the difference in tones a little bit annoying, so I’ll make sure to try and keep them as even as possible.

    paul
    Participant

    It would be more important to have the horizon straight. A partially cropped foot is not the end of the world, and you will get away with it more often than not.

    It’s not uncommon at all to not shoot with the horizon level. Easy enough to fix later with a crop. Try to leave a bit more space to crop though. This also isn’t always possible as the action gets close to you. In that case, a cropped foot/hand is normal and the image will still be used.

    There is no easy way to deal with changing light, other than knowing your camera well, and adjusting as you go. The easiest method is to just alter the shutter speed. But, this will also depend on what way you are shooting – Manual, Aperture Priority, Shutter priority. Changing ISO also works for this issue. It’s a matter of practice and experience.

    Have a browse around to see what is produced and used – news websites, rugby websites (not club sites), agencies like Inpho, Sportsfile, Getty, PA, etc. There are also a few pro and semi-pro shooters on here who shoot rugby, like myself.

    Keep at it, enjoy it and don’t stress about it.

    Stewbyyy
    Member

    paul wrote:

    It would be more important to have the horizon straight. A partially cropped foot is not the end of the world, and you will get away with it more often than not.

    It’s not uncommon at all to not shoot with the horizon level. Easy enough to fix later with a crop. Try to leave a bit more space to crop though. This also isn’t always possible as the action gets close to you. In that case, a cropped foot/hand is normal and the image will still be used.

    There is no easy way to deal with changing light, other than knowing your camera well, and adjusting as you go. The easiest method is to just alter the shutter speed. But, this will also depend on what way you are shooting – Manual, Aperture Priority, Shutter priority. Changing ISO also works for this issue. It’s a matter of practice and experience.

    Have a browse around to see what is produced and used – news websites, rugby websites (not club sites), agencies like Inpho, Sportsfile, Getty, PA, etc. There are also a few pro and semi-pro shooters on here who shoot rugby, like myself.

    Keep at it, enjoy it and don’t stress about it.

    Thanks for the great advice Paul. I also checked out your website and found your general sports photography tips very helpful. I had a look around on the sports photography website so I’ll try experimenting with some shots, change up my angles, move around, watch out for different things etc.

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