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well just to comfort you pete Dell are just as bad. all they seem to have is indian people on the support lines. now i have noting agenst them people but they can be hard to understand.
ild still like to see what a mac is like.. altough my Pc could eat a mac book for starters… so i duno
stcstc wrote:
Jimjam
I have to disagree with you. I have worked in the media industry for 20 years. and have always used both.
In terms of 3d i do agree. but some points
What open gl cards are you using that you cant run in a mac pro, I guess you mean stuff like the latest FireGL stuff.
I dont understand why you need 300 layers in an after effects project, surly your pre comping things and proxy useage sorts it out
I do a lot of work with hollywood DVD studios, and most of them are buying mac pro machines to run windows to run their software encoders on, as the cost of ownership is actually much less than the same spec in a branded box, like hp or even boxx systems or someone
Hi,
Its not a question of cards. Im not a programmer so I cant explain exactly why macs dont perform as well in 3d. They just dont. Ive recently answered that with 100% certainty to my mind. They just cant display textures and push polys around the same way a lower spec pc can. The software support for 3d apps is pathetic too, its just not a viable platform for 3d. Even running xp pro 64 and running lightwave, a dual xeon quad core with 16 gigs or ram and nvidia 8800 still couldnt display the same no. of polys as a much less powerfull pc. Believe me I was surprised, and it wasnt a one off as we were borrowing 2 very similar specced machines for rendering. They had been bought specifically for 3d by another company. Render times were good though.As for the layers in afx, pretty hard to explain but it was basically a project that was replicating traditional cell animation but in an almost photorealistic context, it had massive amounts of 3d particle effects layers not to mention a deep parralax scrolling effect with a very detailed back drop. I wouldnt want to do it again thats for sure! but it is relevant to illustrate the point that pc’s are for real when it comes to design.
Ive been looking at upgrading recently and I still think that macs v any pc price wise the advantage still goes to pc. I was actually looking at boxx workstations, but they are just too expensive (although they have specs that no mac can come close to at the higher end). I actually found a company called Armari who Im very impressed with, check em out.
BTW 20 years…do you still have your lettraset kit :lol:
1,2,3,4 i declare another bloody pointless flame war over which is better, mac or pc.
1,2,3,4 i declare another bloody pointless flame war over which is better, mac or pc.
Agreed.
BTW: Ken.. you really are back with a bang :wink:
rerun wrote:
I guess you guys have debated this before, but I was wondering if there was general consensus that Mac is the preferred platform for digital image processing.
If you disregard pushing around a gazillion 3d vectors and textures,
and the ugly tone of the disgruntled mac flamers and trollers, on this and other threads,
then I think you’ll find that the experience of processing images
should not be an unpleasant one on any good computer these days.I don’t really care what’s under the hood myself-
apart from adding the usual drives and peripherals-
They all use components, when they fail, I replace them.If you’re a 3d modeler, or in any other discipline that requires the use of industry specific programs,
then you’ll hardly be using a mac if the software isn’t written for it.If you like to fiddle with bits-
fit flashing cables in a neon watercooled tower, for example,
a mac may not be for you.And pity the poor gamer-
they’ve never been able to game on a mac ?But for processing images, a mac works just fine.
Would anyone have a make/model of laptop that they’d recommend for image processing?
I’d probably recommend not getting one with a glossy screen-
after that, I couldn’t possibly say-Photoshop was originally released in 1990, on a mac.
A windows version was released in 1992.
During this period there was a general consensus
that the Mac was the preferred platform for digital image processing.I’ve no experience of the particular version you mention though-
j
I have a Macbookpro and the equivalent Dell. Home and Work respectively. To be honest I would choose the Mac over the PC anyday. Not so much for the software. If anything PCs have first bite of every cherry in that respect. Its just that the Mac and Apple gear in general seems to be easier to use and set up. And there is that feel good factor also. Its like someone in Apple HQ actually took pride in what they created and it shows. The pc creaks and there are all sorts of loose bits. The mac just sits there and I dont have to think about it. If you have a problem with some Apple gear than there is usually a forum of people who are actually interested in their machines who can give advice. Apple also seem to respond better to customers for product specifications. Windows is basically geared to corporations who are ultra conservative. Macs are practically immune to viruses. So far. Major downside with Macs however include some file sharing compatibility issues and the cost. Apple are masters at making people buy gear at hefty prices. For example any remote hard drive will work with any mac but the new (very useful) back up facilities in apples latest OS appear to only work with Apples pricey hard drives…. And of course if you buy a mac you HAVE to get an ipod and an iphone and everything else as they all work so well together!!! But at least it works…..
Hmm, how come you heavy media users aren’t using something like Silicon Graphics? Then there’d be no need for a Mac -v- PC argument :wink:
As for me, I’ve used ‘wintel’ machines since the days of DOS and while I wouldn’t consider myself a technical whizz kid, I can say I’ve never had a problem I couldn’t fix myself. While I’ve thought of going down the Mac route, it has only always been “to be cool” which the rational part of my brain tells me is a stupid reason to switch platforms, so I always end up staying put and will probably remain so until such time as someone comes up with a compelling reason for making the switch.
At the end of the day, either platform will get the job done for you and in most cases what you use simply boils down to personal preference, often influenced by emotive and passionate talk in favour of one over the other.
Just came across this – Apple hit with another “millions of colors” lawsuit. In other words, just because it’s a Mac it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be careful about what you’re going to buy from them, just as with any other computer.
Hello
I’m have at home 2 Mac’s and 2 Pc’s i will not start with the debate which one is better, i can tell you one think for sure. At this moment you can buy a MAC and put windows inside and have a 2 in 1 solution, and if you get a pc you can get it working properly with one apple OS.
The big advantage of the mac i would say is, if you buy a Mac today and open lets say Photoshop the mac will take for example 45s to open, if you buy a faster PC today the PC will open in 30s, in 1 year time when both or pc and mac will be full of information the mac will still take the 45s to open when then the pc will be down to 1min.
This is a big advantage of the mac the time passes but it takes exacly the same to open the applications then when you bought it.
It’s not all a bed of roses – MacBook Air hacked within two minutes at expo :lol:
Thorsten wrote:
It’s not all a bed of roses – MacBook Air hacked within two minutes at expo :lol:
That article makes interesting reading- and the follow-ups even more so-
Still, nothing like a sensational headline, however inaccurate-
You don’t usually strike me as a tabloid writer-
except in your role as PC guy-Good reporting there Thorsten-
j
jb7 wrote:
You don’t usually strike me as a tabloid writer-
except in your role as PC guy-It’s so easy to ruffle the feathers of Mac-heads that I couldn’t resist a few posts like this :lol: Truth be known, I wouldn’t say no to a Mac myself but given the position I am in right now a PC is imminently more affordable. In terms of getting to a finished print, what I want and what I need are, more often than not, entirely different – I want a Canon EOS 1Ds MkIII but I don’t need it, I want a 17″ Mac Book Pro, but I don’t need it, and so on and so forth. But I guess that’s no different to anyone else here really.
Thorsten wrote:
It’s not all a bed of roses – MacBook Air hacked within two minutes at expo :lol:
Well if you search about windows issues, i bet you will find way more link’s then mac issues… but in the end it will be always what is best? mac users will say mac pc users will say pc i say they are both viable options and i use both for different tasks… And to be honest for photography i prefer the mac.
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