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  • randomway
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    I’m currently trying to convince myself, that I can’t live without a medium format film camera. I looked at the bulky mf studio cameras, played with the idea of a view camera, but in the end I figured that I am going in the direction where I will need quiet, easy to use, light and somewhat battery independent cameras with a large enough negative. I am now looking at the Mamiya 6 & 7, Fuji GW 670 & 690 and I am just wondering if there is someone here who used these cameras before? I see them once and then on ebay, but I would prefer holding them before spending that kind of money. Do you know about a shop who would sell such cameras (used obviously) in Dublin or around?

    Thanks in advance
    Zoltan

    Fintan
    Participant

    TheFizz has a Mamiya 7 and its a beauty. I cant remember ever seeing any used models in any of the high street shops here but you might get lucky. Prices are strong enough for these rangefinders and quite rightly.

    randomway
    Member

    I the meantime I checked the net a bit more and found that Robert White in the UK sells new Mamiya 7 II for around 1000 pounds with the 80mm lens. It is not utterly expensive if you think about the price of a Nikon d300. I give myself a month to read on and look around, but it’s certainly a camera that does everything I would need. I need to buy a scanner at the same time… will see.

    Fintan
    Participant

    You coud go second hand perhaps with ffordes.com

    thefizz
    Participant

    I have been a Mamiya RZ67 user for a good few years and love the camera and format, but recently I purchased a Mamiya 7 and I must say it is fantastic. I got it for basic “walk about” photography as the RZ with extra lenses is quite heavy. It gives me so many options not always convenient with the RZ. Of course I now carry both when out shooting landscapes, so much for getting a lighter load :roll:

    The 7 is not much bigger than an SLR but you have a negative almost five times bigger. I use a 65mm lens which is slightly wide angle, equal to around 35mm on an SLR I think.

    I got the 7 in ffordes and the lens from KEH. Both places are excellent to deal with and have plenty of 7’s and lenses on sale at present.

    I would be happy to meet you some day and show you mime if you want to see and handle it. (That could be taken the wrong way :shock: )

    Peter

    thefizz
    Participant

    randomway wrote:

    I the meantime I checked the net a bit more and found that Robert White in the UK sells new Mamiya 7 II for around 1000 pounds with the 80mm lens. It is not utterly expensive if you think about the price of a Nikon d300. I give myself a month to read on and look around, but it’s certainly a camera that does everything I would need. I need to buy a scanner at the same time… will see.

    Just remember that you must add 17.5% Vat to Robert White’s prices.

    BM
    Participant

    I was always put off rangefinders because of the lack of autofocus – I don’t trust my own eye-sight! How easy is the 7 to focus accurately?

    thefizz
    Participant

    BM wrote:

    I was always put off rangefinders because of the lack of autofocus – I don’t trust my own eye-sight! How easy is the 7 to focus accurately?

    I have heared a few people complain about range finder focusing and I don’t understand why, as it couldn’t be easier.

    BM
    Participant

    Must have a closer look – to coin a phrase!!

    I have recently moved into digital photography from 35mm film (and after a bit of an absence!). For landscape work, I prefer the more thoughtful approach of a film camera, i.e. without all the bells and whistles and fps – but still enjoy the gadgets factor of modern cameras.

    On a general note, what is the mid- and long-term outlook for availability of film for medium format/rangefinder cameras? I still have an inkling to try some out, but am not sure about the future …

    thefizz
    Participant

    If we keep buying it, they’ll keep making it. At present there is a vast selection of film available in all formats although a lot of it is only available online.

    randomway
    Member

    Thanks thefizz, and I would be very happy to try that M7 at some point. Now I am just thinking on how to spend my annual bonus, which I get next month. The Mamiya would be nice, but I am trying to get into event photography and digital is so much more practical… It’s either the M7 and a scanner or a Nikkor 24-70 or 28-70 or a second d200, I’m not sure yet.

    Would the mamiya be of any use in low light? I know that it’s quiet and I would love that, but what about the low light capability? How precise is focusing in dark with a rangefinder?

    thefizz
    Participant

    randomway wrote:

    Would the mamiya be of any use in low light? I know that it’s quiet and I would love that, but what about the low light capability? How precise is focusing in dark with a rangefinder?

    Not too sure about the low light focusing as I haven’t done any with it. It may be a restriction alright but I can’t say for sure.

    randomway
    Member

    I’ve just realized, that the lenses are f/4, so it’s probably not made for low-light photography. Still, it’s a great camera and the 6×7 format is just a perfect match with my taste….

    The other question that I have is how long does the battery last in the camera and what type does it use? Is the camera weather-sealed in any way? If I bought it, I would bring it on dusty and dirty tracks, with no access to electricity all the time (this is where digital fails).

    thefizz
    Participant

    randomway wrote:

    I’ve just realized, that the lenses are f/4, so it’s probably not made for low-light photography. Still, it’s a great camera and the 6×7 format is just a perfect match with my taste….

    The other question that I have is how long does the battery last in the camera and what type does it use? Is the camera weather-sealed in any way? If I bought it, I would bring it on dusty and dirty tracks, with no access to electricity all the time (this is where digital fails).

    I will have to check the battery tonight to see which one it is but if its anything like the RZ, it will last years before it needs replacing.

    randomway
    Member

    I think, I am in serious trouble… a Mamiya 7ii and an 80/4 lens is on the way to me. I haven’t used film since I was in high school… don’t even remember how to load a camera. That’s all about my plans to upgrade to Nikon D3.

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