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  • wjklewis
    Member

    Natasha has only be modeling since Thursday. I think she is a natural and wish her all the best for the future. Only two lights used. One dlight fitted with and Octa Light box and one dlight with Honey comb on the hair.

    Your comments welcome as usual.

    John

    Not Pete the bloke
    Participant

    Hi John – hope you enjoyed the day at the studio today! You left too early – have a look at the Santa Claus outfits which were produced by the girls later on – posted in the ‘events’ forum!? Happy Christmas.

    Ross

    PS – Have to agree that Natasha was a complete natural. Very pretty and confident in front of the camera. Your image is nice and sharp and well composed. It might be a tad over-exposed in the highlights? If it was shot in RAW I would try reducing it by 1/3 to half a stop and compare the result.

    Ali
    Participant

    hey John,

    Nice portrait. Lovely expression. I’m just wondering why you chose to position the hair light the same side as the key light?
    I would usually have it on the opposite side to give some rim lighting.

    JohnnyMcMillan
    Participant

    Nice portrait shot, but I always find it a tad bit frustrating when I have to scroll to see the image in entirety…just make sure that you enable it for a full 1024×768 resolution….which is the standard screen resolution….it would give better justice to the image

    Ali
    Participant

    quick edit:

    1. Crop 1:1.618
    2. Bring back in the blown areas (curve layer +mask), brighten up LHS (curve layer +mask)
    3. Selective sharpen with red channel
    4. Dodge eyes (Highlights 8%)
    5. Contrast on highlights and shadows with curve layers.

    JohnnyMcMillan
    Participant

    The highlights on the models left hand side seem too much now

    Allinthemind
    Participant

    Hi John,

    Exposure looks ok to me (maybe it’s time to recalibrate if others think this is over-cooked). She has lovely eyes and a fun expression. I’m guessing that the lights were “placed” before the model, IMO the lighting is back to front and is making a round face look even rounder. (this is often the way on club nights, the lights are put up and then the model is brought in). There is an opportunity to change the appearance of the shape of a face using light and shadow.

    https://www.photographyireland.net/viewtopic.php?t=155&start=15

    Again, above all else, a good expression.

    See you in January

    Si

    Thorsten
    Member

    Allinthemind wrote:

    Hi John,

    Exposure looks ok to me (maybe it’s time to recalibrate if others think this is over-cooked). She has lovely eyes and a fun expression. I’m guessing that the lights were “placed” before the model, IMO the lighting is back to front and is making a round face look even rounder. (this is often the way on club nights, the lights are put up and then the model is brought in). There is an opportunity to change the appearance of the shape of a face using light and shadow.

    https://www.photographyireland.net/viewtopic.php?t=155&start=15

    Again, above all else, a good expression.

    See you in January

    Si

    If the lights are “fixed”, one could move the model so that she is short-lit, although in this instance the hair light may have prevented that?

    Having been on group shoots myself in the past I know how restrictive these can be when it comes to moving lights and so on. The sheer number of people there make this quite difficult. I think you did very well under the circumstances.

    Not Pete the bloke
    Participant

    I agree that the hair light should have been put on the other side, but unfortunately there was a large settee in the way of moving it at the time, and cramped space in any event due to the amount of people there.
    The day was a great success, and provided quite a few photographers and models the chance to get to put faces to names etc. This model Natasha had only modelled once before (last week!) and she was very natural and easy to work with.

    wjklewis
    Member

    Hi Guys.

    Simon is spot on as usual. the size of the group and size of the studio restricted how lighting was set up. The hair light had been placed for a previous model and had not been moved, for the reasons Ross has stated. I’m glad you think the exposure is ok because it looked ok to me on my screen so that is good to hear.

    I used the make fit command in PS and set that at 800 X 800 it thought that covered most people should I use a different size?

    Ali love what you have done and I did consider the crop myself. Any chance you could explain the Curves/mask thing a bit more, and why selective sharpening using the red Channel?

    The lighting for this shot has more contrast than the previous posted shot of Danni which was described as flat so I am learning all the time.

    I am looking forward now to being able to set up the studio my self now, so we will see how that turns out.

    I continue to appreciate all you help and suggestions. many thanks John

    Ali
    Participant

    Hey John,

    I’ll try my best, :) If you look at the levels on the image you will see that there is a noticeable white area to the right of the histogram.
    While you are here you can CTRL+ALT and click on the arrow to the right of the histogram to see where the white areas are (Will appear in red on a black background).

    In this case there are areas on the face that are white, although evenly dispersed, which is probably giving you the impression that the exposure is ok.

    The histogram on my edit is as follows which gives you an idea of the difference in the range of tones.

    With regards to selective sharpening, you generally don’t want to sharpen the skin. Only areas like the eyes, lips, under the nose, hair etc.
    If you perform a calculation on the red channel and invert and use this as a selection, you have a pretty good mask to perform your sharpening on. If you look at the diagram below you will see that the white areas will be sharpened while the black areas will be left alone.

    wjklewis
    Member

    Ali how do you make the selection on the red Channel? and then do you apply the filter to the channel?

    Do you have the PS file perhaps if I studied that I might cop on better?

    John.

    Allinthemind
    Participant

    Nice one Ali :)

    I just downloaded the original picture and the red channel is a little hot (probably the smallest increment John can set on his camera).

    I really must look at calculations again. The selective sharpening using the red channel is a great idea.
    I had a go, using this process:

    click channel tab
    click on red channel
    click on the icon at the bottom of the channels palette that looks like the EU symbol (Make selection from channel)
    then click on rgb channel
    (you could feather the selection at this point)
    invert selection and sharpen away.

    Thanks Ali.

    Never too old to learn

    Si

    wjklewis
    Member

    Hi Guys Think I have got it now will try it out tonight.

    Many thanks

    Brendan Lennon
    Participant

    pretty much what Ali did, but with more emphasis on the eyes ;

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