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New camera with lenses
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Hey all,
I’m very new to the world of photography but now feel it’s time to upgrade to a big boy camera from my wee compact.
I’ll have a budget of about €1,000 and need recommendations on which camera to go for. I’d also like to get 2 all rounder lenses as well.
From what I’ve read the big players are much of a muchness and what “feels” best should be the brand to go for and the model being dictated by budget.
Subject matter will be varied, I’d definately be taking the camera on hols, India being my next trip in August. I basically need an all purpose camera with two good all rounder lenses.
Cheers
Try the second hand market.
My choice for €1000 would be
Canon 40D (about€650)
Canon 28-135 IS (about €300) Good all rounder, but not for wide angle shots.Would add a 70-200 f4 Non IS for a good portrait zoom (in india) but you are talking about €400
You might get a good package deal on the Canon 450D or the 1000D ( smaller in size to the 40D)
Get yourself to Calumet in Belfast. Canon EOS-40D with 18-55mm & 55-250mm Lens kit – £906.00
http://www.calumetphoto.co.uk/item/321-258B/
Check out the Nikon D90 12.3MP DSLR with 18-105mm Lens kit – £805.00
http://www.calumetphoto.co.uk/item/355-990B/
Cheers, John
If this is your first DSLR then the Nikon D40X is a very good introductory Digital SLR. Heres one on ebay with an 18-55mm lens for €372 + about €22 p&p.
http://cgi.ebay.ie/Nikon-D40x-Digital-SLR-Camera-Body-18-55mm-lens-Bag_W0QQitemZ260403730110QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_DigitalCameras_DigitalCameras_JN?hash=item260403730110&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1300%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50That would still leave you with enough money to get the nikon 18-200 which is available for €540 here
http://cgi.ebay.ie/New-Nikon-AF-S-DX-VR-18-200mm-18-200-f3-5-5-6G-UK_W0QQitemZ220393057899QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CamerasPhoto_CameraAccessories_CameraLensesFilters_JN?hash=item220393057899&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1300%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50Canon people will push Canon camera, Nikon people will push Nikon and so on. I started with the Nikon D50 and used it for 3 years and found it to be a great camera. It has since been replaced by the D40 and D40x. I recently got a Nikon D200 but have held on to the D50 as a back up body.
Go to camera shops and get a feel for the different types. happy hunting.
The 1000D is a fine camera, and it lets you use the full stable of Canon and Canon-compatible lenses. You lose some features, but all the important basic elements are present. If your budget doesn’t stretch to the 500D, it’s a good choice.
A used 40D as John suggests is another good option – for about the same price as the 1000D (maybe a bit more), you get a far better camera in terms of usability and features. Image quality will be about the same – slightly better on the 40D, but nothing to scream about.
For lenses, to start with the 17-85mm EF-S lens would be a good basic walk-around lens – a better choice than the 28-135 due to better image quality, and a more suitable focal length range for general purpose photography on an APS-C sized sensor.
That should do you. If you have an interest in sports or wildlife photography, then the 75-300mm zoom would be a good second lens choice. If not, then the 50mm f/1.8 is an excellent option for low-light photography and portraiture. If neither of those options appeals, then leave the second lens purchase for a while.
Cheers,
PeterAs Peter said the Canon 17-85 EF-S Lens is a very good lens, and a nice walkabout one, especially for India
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CanonIm a Canon user and have been for about 15 years now but you cannot overlook the
Olympus system either.But whatever system you buy into you pretty much are going to use for a good number
of years, I wouldnt have a clue about Nikon cameras for instance and would fear having
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If it were I I would get a Nikon
I would go for a use d80 with the 18-135-kit lens
And then on to eBay and look for a Nikon 80-200 f2.8 Auto focus AF ED one sharp lens
And then I would get a Nikon 50mm f1.8 AF-D a very sharp lens and a good portrait on the D80Talk to John of John Gunn Camera Shop, 16 Wexford Street, Dublin 2, 01 4781226 one nice man.
The one thing I would say is the camera it self is now like a computer 2/3 year and it fit for the bin sure it will work but you will want a new one, Spend your money on your glass.
I have a D80 and love it but now I want a D300 but Nikon will have it new range out later on this year
A used Nikon 50mm f1.8 AF-D for a €100 on adverts but you can buy it new for €129 so you may get it for less
http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=112486&cat=51Well all the best and the best of luck
Mac
:)Nikon or Canon really doesn’t matter as both are excellent.
However, I strongly disagree with what Mac said about the camera being fit for the bin after 2/3 years. Even the most basic DSLR you can buy now will give perfectly good image quality up to A3 size, which is as big as most people will ever go.
Sure, the newer cameras will have bells and whistles, but those are luxuries, and any quality improvements (with the possible exception of high ISO, low noise performance) will be incremental.
Lenses are definitely more important than camera bodies in terms of image quality, to be sure – go with a budget body and better glass – but don’t go buying expensive glass to start with, unless you know exactly what sort of photography you like, and what lenses are needed to realize it.
Cheers,
PeterLads, thanks for all the advice, It’s greatly appreciated!
Although I am even more confussed than ever lol. I’m a complete novice so perhaps I should go for a good all rounder lense and an entry level body and see where that takes me.
So going from the Canon camp a Canon 1000d body with a Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM lense. I think that’ll come in about €950 new?
Any alternative on the Nikons side of the coin?
Oh and just to note, I don’t really know what “EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM lense” means :oops: , hoping to learn through practical experience.
Check out this link – a friend of mine bought from them.
http://www.alihashop.com/goods.php?id=193
Canon EOS 40D 17-85 + EF-S10-22 KIT
great price – it is my understanding that they are extremely reliable – i’m tempted myself.
Good Luck
Mark
mmmmmm..ordering direct from China. Not sure I’d risk it. I’d probably get lifted at customs.
Yeah, the 1000D with the 17-85mm lens would work fine.
You should also consider doing a beginners workshop to get a grounding in the basics of photography. I run regular courses in both Dublin and West Cork.
You can see the details on my website: http://www.petercox.ie/digital_photo_courses.php
Cheers,
PeterCanon EF-S lenses are designed to work with Canon cameras with the APS-C sized
sensors such as the EOS 10D, 20D, 30D, 40D etc.They are not designed to work with their full frame models such as the Eos 5D MK2.
What to watch out for here is that any UF-S lenses you buy will not be compatible
with a Canon full frame camera which uses EF lenses.
I have read of EF-S lenses being modified in some way to fit full frame cameras
but it dosen’t sound like a good idea.EF lenses can be used with cameras with APS-C sized sensors.
The USM refers to the ultrasonic motor in the lens for AF. (Quiet and fast)
Confused yet? :?
John.
BTW I use a Canon EOS 20D bought when they came out in late 2004.
This camera is a long way from being thrown in the bin.
I process my images on a Dell laptop that is 2 years older than my
camera and that is not going in the bin either.
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