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Photographing in public places
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PaddysnapperParticipant
Fintan wrote:
Sorry if this is a bit off topic but could some of the members of PI chip into a small fund to get proper legal advice on where we all stand on these matters, which we can print or post as a PDF for all to carry in our camera bags and circulate to An Garda etc.
If our rights fall short of what we think is fair we could start a lobby to have this changed, teaming up with other amateur and professional bodies.
Any interest?
I am in total agreement with this. I carry a copy of the UK “rules” But one for here would be a good thing…….Having said that I have never had a moments bother :lol:
jb7Participantweeles wrote:
A police officer cannot compel you to show your images, nor can they seize your equipment without a court order. They quite specifically CANNOT order you to delete you images, for the following reason.
If the images were taken illegally, then they are evidence to that offence, and under PACE (Police and Crimanal Evidence Act) must be protected as physical evidence. Deleting the images would in its-self be a Criminal offence (tampering with evidence). If the images were NOT obtained illegally then you cannot be compeled to delete them.Not sure I agree with you about the compelling bit-
though I can’t fault your logic about the PACE thing-
however, both scenarios are quite likely to lead to an arrest-
Particularly under section 44 of the terrorism act in the UK (see below)Here’s a useful guide that goes into detail-
dunno if this is the kind of thing you wanted Fintan-http://www.sirimo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ukphotographersrights-v2.pdf
FintanParticipantSomething like that jb, I’ve seen others but they are all useless here unfortunately.
thedarkroomParticipantjb7 wrote:
irishwonkafan wrote:
Of course, a large format owner would be deemed harmless…best left alone.
Funny, when writing the last comment I thought – hmmm, better specify SLR coz JB’ll surely come in about his big black box…then I forgot.
The thing about 8×10 is, you hardly need to blow it up at all-
Though maybe I shouldn’t bother trying to have that conversation with the Guards…
Where I come from, referring to someone as ‘harmless’ has connotations of gormless and witless. Not JB, surely?
:D
Anyway, with JB’s modification capabilities, you could easily hide a Howitzer in any 10×8 camera he would have. Check out that tripod carefully, that camera appears to have a 155mm aperture!!!miki gParticipantI was photographing two avenues of trees the other day (from outside the gates) and the Gardai arrived. They identified themselves as Gardai as they were in plainclothes in an unmarked car, and asked me what I was doing and who I was. I explained and showed them the photos (voluntary). They were then satisfied and left me about my business. I hadn’t realised that BOTH avenues led to the same premises. The Gardai were not intimidating, threatening or unreasonable and were quiet polite and pleasant. I think in most cases, a guy with a shaved head, hanging around a house where he is unknown, taking photos, would be reason enough for the residents to feel uneasy and I can understand why they would call the Gardai. I know I would if it was me living there. So just because you may be asked, what you’re up to, doesn’t mean that the Gardai or anyone else are hassling you just because you are photographing something and appear suspicious. By you being co-operative, usually avoids any aggro.
jb7ParticipantBad enough to have the Guards intimidating photographers on the street,
without having to put up with photographers intimidating the witless here…Large format is not a crime…
Miki, I hope you told them you were following a definite avenue of enquiry…
Did you ask them were they special branch?miki gParticipant
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