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tsergairlMember
well what DO YOU think about this:
“IN an effort to target paedophiles,” Cork County Council is drawing up new bylaws which will make it an offence to take photos of children in playgrounds.
The draft document states “no person, unless they are a member of a family, shall operate, or use a camera, camera phone, video or any other media device in a playground without authorisation from the council”. However, the local authority itself reserves the right to install video cameras in order to monitor anti-social behaviour.
full:
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Chris
paulParticipantIt’s a very sad day when it comes to something like this.
Soon, even parents, won’t be allowed take photos of their own children.
jungleParticipantpaul wrote:
It’s a very sad day when it comes to something like this.
Soon, even parents, won’t be allowed take photos of their own children.
The sad truth of the matter is there are a lot of sick people out there and parents are aware of this.
I even had to sign to allow the school to take photos of my kids. They won’t do it otherwise.
As an amateur photographer I see why people would like to have the freedom to photograph whatever they like in a public area. But as a father of a 5 year old, a 3 year old and 1 year old, if I caught someone specifically photographing my children in a playground without my permission would probably think twice before they did it again.
I wouldn’t dream of taking pics of children without asking first.
Like it or not people will always err on the side of caution when it comes to their children.
MarkKeymasterWell indeed the whole thing is ridiculous for many reasons. That said, I wouldn’t be slow to take photos
of kids without first asking their parent’s permission. This would exclude a street photo whereby kids were
just in the general scene.FYI to all, we do have a rule here on PI that in order to post any photos of children who are not your own, you need to
ensure that you have the guardians permission to publish them on the web…tsergairlMemberOne of the stupidest laws that were invented !!!
i want to see the people (parents) and especially author of this rule, when somebody will show the pictures of children on playgroaunds taken with this :
http://fotoblogia.pl/images/2009/01/ef-800mm-f_56l-is-usm.jpg” onclick=”window.open(this.href);return false;hmmm??? nobody knows that children were photographed , NOBODY , that rule was invented by some person (persons) who knows NOTHING about photography
Chris
PixelleMemberFYI to all, we do have a rule here on PI that in order to post any photos of children who are not your own, you need to
ensure that you have the guardians permission to publish them on the web…I didn’t know that. Does it include street?
MarkKeymasterYa, this is the quote from the rules:
Children: Where the image of the child is the main focus/subject, you are only allowed post the image if you have express permission from the parent or are the parent.
So its about the child been the main subject…
jungleParticipanttsergairl wrote:
One of the stupidest laws that were invented !!!
i want to see the people (parents) and especially author of this rule, when somebody will show the pictures of children on playgroaunds taken with this :
http://fotoblogia.pl/images/2009/01/ef-800mm-f_56l-is-usm.jpg” onclick=”window.open(this.href);return false;hmmm??? nobody knows that children were photographed , NOBODY , that rule was invented by some person (persons) who knows NOTHING about photography
Chris
Well theres not much you can do about the sickos who decide to spend 5 grand on an 800mm lens taking shots from a roof. :roll:
Why are you so upset about this law, its obviously being introduced for a reason. At the moment if someone insists on taking photos of your kids, you have no right to tell them to piss off. If people don’t want their children photographed, I think that should be respected. If you really want to photograph peoples children you can ask them first, its just good manners, I doubt many would mind, they’d probably ask for a copy.
Cheers
Al.tsergairlMemberI am not upset, just i think than some people have got wrong thinking about photographers (pro and amateur)
and why?thats why :
please, read the whole thread,
have you had any similar situation??Chris
:-)
Chris
tsergairlMemberjungle wrote:
If you really want to photograph peoples children you can ask them …
Cheers
Al.NO I DO NOT want, one stress year ago is completly enough for, me,
i just take a photos of my friend and family children
Chris
miki gParticipantThese bye laws are a bit draconian but I can understand why a council would deem them necessary. We all want to protect our children & sometimes laws need to be introduced that will help to do this.
tsergairlMemberyeah , i do undrestand, i’ve got son as well,
just cant imagine some mums or dads on playgraunds , when she / he want to take some photos of her / his babies , and after few minutes police will examine ie: mobile phone (couse there is a camera) , because there is always someone overzealous and “nice” who will call for the police :-) (there are usually more than one fimily on the ground :-) )
now this make me a laugh :-)
Cheers
Chris
SheldonParticipanttsergairl wrote:
unless they are a member of a family
Stupid wording. Everybody is a member of a family…….
Should be something more like: Must be related to the person or person’s being photographed.
I don’t think they have thought this through at all.
damien.murphyParticipantHmm.. an inflammatory thread topic, if ever there was one..
I can understand the concern driving such a piece of legislation, but just like terrorism being successful in it’s aim if it has created terror, who has really won, if the steps involved in protecting against society’s predators, means we all end up looking over our shoulders constantly/ living in fear.
Unfortunately the most worrying aspect of this, and similar issues, is that issues such as these often make perfect fodder for right wing governments only too happy to restrict our own personal freedoms and rights ‘for our own good’. Perhaps some might find this a little melodramatic, but measures of this nature are so very often only the thin end of the wedge, rewarding society’s distrust in itself by curtailing our own basic freedoms, which once taken are never relinquished.
Surely there’s a better way forward..
dmgParticipantWas this legislation brought in to tackle a wide spread serious issue that had arisen or was it brought in because somebody (or group of somebodies) decided it was a good idea. I suspect the latter, but I am open to correction.
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