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Reverse ND Grads

  • nfl-fan
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    Reverse ND Grads

    I know Singh Ray produce these and can be purchased in the US… but I’m put off buying outside the EU at the moment.

    Anyone know if they can be bought within the EU?

    Cheerz

    jb7
    Participant

    What are they?
    Upside down ones?

    nfl-fan
    Participant

    Have a look…

    http://www.singh-ray.com/reversegrads.html

    Sometimes when shooting a sunrise/sunset the image is going to be brightest where the sun meets the horizon so you want to darken this section down without affecting the darker sky that sits above it.

    If you look at many landscape photos you’ll notice the appear darker at the top as the grad being used isn’t fully appropriate.

    jb7
    Participant

    Well let’s hope you don’t get those ones,
    cos they’re covered in fingerprints…

    nfl-fan
    Participant
    Gizzo
    Participant

    as far as I know, Singh Ray is the way to go…
    if you find where to buy them, give me a shout will you?

    nfl-fan
    Participant

    As far as I know Giz they can only be purchased from the US… expensive too.

    Gizzo
    Participant

    nfl-fan wrote:

    As far as I know Giz they can only be purchased from the US… expensive too.

    well, for a moment I thought that you discovered the ‘el dorado’ :(

    PeteW
    Member

    Surely it’s got to be more economical to “MacGyver” it as was suggested earlier.

    Layer masks and gradients have to be the way to go at that rate.

    nfl-fan
    Participant

    Layer masks and gradients have to be the way to go at that rate.

    Oh, I never thought of that.

    You’d have to wonder why the manufacturer never thought of this… and why landscapers the likes of Joe Cornish actually bother with filters at all?

    Can you pull back a blown sun using this technique?

    Can you write us a guide?

    Thanks, looking forward to it.

    PeteW
    Member

    Exactly, what’s everyone been thinking this whole time ?

    Step 1 – Open photo
    Step 2 – Draw grey line across sunset
    Step 3 – Put feet up and admire a job well done

    You could always carry around a non blown picture of the sun on a stick and hold that up in front of the real sun if you don’t want to go through that whole mess…

    Crikey, never thought I had a future in writing guides, who’d have thought it.

    nfl-fan
    Participant

    Thanks for taking the time to share this.

    Fintan
    Participant

    Would you consider the Lee system;

    These are always in my bag and I dont call them reverse anything, they are graduated neutral density filters

    http://www.leefilters.com/camera/products/packs/ref:P47A9C932631F0/

    I think I bought them in Robert White about 10 years ago but lots of places do them like warehouseexpress.com etc

    Fintan
    Participant

    PeteW wrote:

    Layer masks and gradients have to be the way to go at that rate.

    I dont seem to have a Layer Mask and Gradient button on the back of my camera, I must upgrade to a camera that takes batteries one day :lol: :lol:

    Seriously though, masks, gradients, hdr, nd grads all have their shortcomings but its handy to have plenty of options.

    PeteW
    Member

    All I’m saying is, there are ways of recreating this kind of reverse grad effect in post processing, are they going to be as good as using such a filter in the first place ? very unlikely unless you are some super whizzkid on the PS side, which I know I’m not.

    But then these filters are very expensive for what seems, on the face of it to be a fairly specific requirement, although there are a fair few sunset/rise pictures around here that would suggest it’s not that specific.

    As always, post processing is not a substitute for getting things right at the point of shooting, which in the examples above, this type of filter are obviously going to help with. It’s not always that case though that we have, or can afford, the equipment required to do that, so sometimes we have to work around that.

    Obviously, everyone’s welcome to follow my (rogue) advice above, you mileage, of course, may vary :P

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