- This topic is empty.
The best €80 I ever spent
-
Hi Miki,
just some background to the picture. We got Yoshi when he was 8 weeks old. Although he is my third GS I decided to get a professional trainer in to get some pointers from them. They say that trainers are more to teach the dog owner how to handle dogs rather than actually train the dog. She was the one that suggested the cage. She said that all pro trainers are recommending the use of cages now, NOT as a punishment, but as a training aid as it helps house train the dogs quicker. It also cuts down on the amount of damage they do during the night, its also his bed and his “Time Out” area.
The cage is in the kitchen and he sleeps there during the night. That is the only time he is locked in. The rest of the time the door is open and he can come and go as he pleases.
as far as the photo is concerned. This was not “set up”. Sean and Yoshi both got into the cage and Sean closed the door behind himself and said “look at me Dad” so I just grabbed the camera and fired off a couple of shots to show the family. Thats why there are no catchlights or any of that. They are just candid shots of a boy and his dog doing what little boys do.
Yoshi considers himself to be Sean’s sibling at this stage. He is now 9 months old and although he still has the puppy energy and exuberance he is a beautiful playful dog. You are 100% correct when you say that small dogs bite a lot more. And this has been backed up by every professional dog trainer I have spoken with.
Before we bought Yoshi I travelled dowwn to Carlow to meet “mammy and Daddy” and to see what their temperments were especially around children and they were both fantastic and gentle.
So you see, Yoshi is not “caged”. He spends most of his time around the family in the living room or in the car on the way to the park/beach etc.
I was quite surprised at the hysterical OTT reactions that these images produced. Although in hindsight I should not have been, as this politically correct world we live in now usually elicits comments on what people think based on what the media tells them to think, rather than what they KNOW based on their own life experiences.
Anyhoo thanks for taking the time to look at the photos and comment on them. I hope I have cleared up a few things here.
Mark S.
Personally I just don’t understand why you felt the need to share a photo like this on an internet forum.
I take a lot of family photos that mean nothing to anyone outside of my family and I.
This photo appears to me to be of a similar disposition and I can’t see why you felt the need to post it for critique. Irrespective of how people choose to judge a small boy in a cage with a dog, to the neutral viewer it borders on meaningless, nothing more than a family snapshot.
Surely you need to ask yourself two “Why am I posting a family snapshot on the internet for critique from a bunch of strangers?”
I have no issues with the photo other than that.
Good luck.
Because it was funny…..does there have to be a reason ?
Why do we take photos at all ? For a multitude of reasons is the answer I suppose. So why not share something that made you laugh ? Does it HAVE to be beautiful landscape or a stunning portrait. I am not the first to post an inane shot and I certainly hope I am not the last otherwise only the usual stuff would ever be seen which would become pretty boring after a while.
i think both opinions of putting the dog and kid in the same cage are valid. everyone is entitled to their opinion. and just to mention the sites rules critque thread are for just that
if you want to have a debate about the ethics etc, go elsewhere, its not to be done in the thread
as for the photos, they dont catch my atteion photographically
the colour ones seem warm for my taste
Because it was funny
But nobody else appears to be laughing? It’s funny to you – your son, your dog, a moment that means something to you. Personally I can’t really relate to it that much. Photographically speaking it’s neither here nor there.
does there have to be a reason ?
Surely you posted it here for a reason? If there was no reason then why bother? If there was no reason then what drove you to post it? There is reason behind all our actions. If you were hoping that others were going to laugh along with you, and that was the reason for posting, then it really hasn’t reached it’s intended audience.
Even the title “The best €80 I ever spent” sends shivers down my spine. If you love the dog then it shouldn’t matter to you how much you paid for it and it certainly doesn’t matter to me.
I think you’ve validated pretty much everything I said in your own response without actually realising it.
Hi Markst33,
If I can interject & not meaning to become involved again but all I’ll say is don’t respond
to these people who are looking for another perceived social evil to crucify upon their cross.
My only problem with the image is one that was already pointed out by another person
is that of the Chelsea jersey! How in Gods name did you allow your son to get in to that!
Shame, shame, shame on you. You’ll never see the gates of heaven but wait!
Maybe I’ve offended someone by my use of God, crucify & heaven!!!
I’ll be castigated as a racist & wife beater!
Oh my dear Lord preserve us, wruff, Amen. :lol: :lol: :lol:Paul Wh wrote:
Where do you start on an image like this, you say the dog is strong and yet you’ve put a little boy in a closed confined cage, why are the guys on PI allowing an image like this online, why did you risk your boy for an image, what would childline think of an image like this ?
What are you on mate.its a family pet/the boy looks happy and why do you think he is risking his boy ?
It might annoy you alos.but why mention PI and childline ?
sean.
tommyb wrote:
Because it was funny
But nobody else appears to be laughing? It’s funny to you – your son, your dog, a moment that means something to you. Personally I can’t really relate to it that much. Photographically speaking it’s neither here nor there.
does there have to be a reason ?
Surely you posted it here for a reason? If there was no reason then why bother? If there was no reason then what drove you to post it? There is reason behind all our actions. If you were hoping that others were going to laugh along with you, and that was the reason for posting, then it really hasn’t reached it’s intended audience.
Even the title “The best €80 I ever spent” sends shivers down my spine. If you love the dog then it shouldn’t matter to you how much you paid for it and it certainly doesn’t matter to me.
I think you’ve validated pretty much everything I said in your own response without actually realising it.
He has posted it here because he likes the pic.as does everyone on the forum. Does the boy look in danger/ stressed (no) I know its different, but it does not deserve the response that a few members have given here. I like the second picture where the boy is smiling and the look on the dogs face put a smile on my face. If you dont like the pic dont comment and def dont slate it.
sean.
Guys this has been done to death at this stage. The pictures posted were immotive in their content and immotive shots spark emotion , simple as. Interesting to see comments both for and against, everyone is entitled to an opinion but 22 replies on a picture of a dog in a cage with a boy…..well enough is enough..
Maybe one good thing has come out of it and that is the requirement for a topic for “Immotive” pictures?/….Think it would be interesting and certainly spark debate. Things had gone a little quiet around here.
As an aside, lets not all slate each others new postings based our opinions on dogs :-)
I found the photos funny to look at first glance & am glad that Mark posted them for critique. Not every photo posted on PI gets a comment & if, like this, an emotive response is created & comments made (good or bad), then it’s a good thing, even though the comments should relate to the actual content of the photos & not be targeted at the poster.
Thanks Mark for the background information as this gives me “a better picture” as to what was going on. :D
sean1098 wrote:
If you dont like the pic dont comment and def dont slate it.
Apologies, I thought members were free to post comments and critique on photos irrespective of whether they liked them or not.
people ARE free to post if they do or dont like the picture, EVERYONES opinion is valid
ANYONE suggesting otherwise doesnt understand the rules or know about my big stick!!!!!
tommyb wrote:
sean1098 wrote:
If you dont like the pic dont comment and def dont slate it.
Apologies, I thought members were free to post comments and critique on photos irrespective of whether they liked them or not.
Critique is one thing, (it does not work for me etc), but from where im sitting you have gone deeper than this.
steve.i thought you would have seen this too.
sean.
(it does not work for me etc)
This is actually what I was aspiring to say.. I just went to the effort of going into some detail and elaborating on why.
Been observing (and enjoying) this thread for a while now and without getting into the debate about how PC the scenario is or isn’t, has everyone missed the most important thing here…. The power of photography. The guy took a spontaneous shot with no composition, tripods, Photoshop magic, meter readings etc. and has managed to get more strong opinions than any “wooly water at sunset image”. That’s what it all about! Taking a shot that for whatever reason gets an emotional response from the viewer.
Funnily enough I recall a post here a while back that depicted some mourners after the Norwegian bombing and shooting rampage that had a similarly divisive response. Those photos weren’t exactly award winning either but it’s what they make people think that actually counts surely.
Hopefully the moderators won’t lock threads like this unless it gets too personal.
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
