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Total beginner…questions about splash..
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Actually I’m not even a beginner…. I just like technology and photographs and so own a camera…. love all the pictures on the site and was inspired by Richie Hatch’s splash image to have a go…. see here http://k53.pbase.com/o4/70/356870/1/53467174._MG_7248.jpg
First Question : what makes a good splash? Tried coins, pea’s and peanuts but none really gave a good splash…
second Question : when do you take the shot… is it just luck…do you click before the object hits the water…or after…or as it does..
sorry..really basic questions perhaps but I am a total novice…
Below was my first attempt… notice all the copper in the bottom of the glass…. a white background I am sure would help a lot…. but really need to know what makes a good splash…I am thinking ball bearings..!
oh and thanks Richie for putting your exif data on your website.. helps idiots like me try stuff like this….
Cheers,
Dave
Hi Dave
Thanks for the comment on my pic and glad I was an inspiration to ye…! I will try and answer your questions as best I can…
The best thing for a splash… A drop…! Simple..! I had the camera on a tripod with a Sigma 105mm macro Lens… also had a flash (550 EX) on an off camera cord propped against a pile of National Geographics. The flash is the important part as its what freezes the drop…! I prefocused to the centre of the glass and then held a small syringe full of cranberry juice just out of the frame and pushed out single drops… trust me I took about 50-60 shots and only got 1 or 2 that where acceptably sharp and timed correctly..! If I was doing it again I would try and mount the syringe onto something so that the drop would fall in exactly the same place every time. The white background was a bit of white card that i brought home from work I think. It helps to seperate the drop from an otherwise cluttered background. To be honest what I was trying to achieve was something like this:
I didnt see this effect occuring with the juice and suspect it has something to do with its viscosity…!
This is one of many from Irene Muller over on pbase: http://www.pbase.com/daria90. Ther are others that mess around with this stuff too like Dave Nitsche who is pesonally one of my favourites: http://www.pbase.com/davenitI would like to comment on your image but for some reason its not showing up for me…?
Anyway I hope this small explanation was of some use to you and anyone else thats interested..!
Richie
Wow Irene’s work is amazing… thanks for the tips… as you can see (I’m hosting the stuff myself now) I have a long way to go.. I think I need to do a course in the basics first though.
i actually have used the same method as RichieHatch, but I used an upside down wine glass,it has a small concave on the base that holds a small drop of water,then used an eye dropper to drop the water.used different colour backgrounds,i used childreans colouring paper bought in the pound shop or euro store, a full book of colouring paper A4 size for 2 euro. Used a Canon macro and a 420EX fired from the ST-E2 (remote)I actually made an Audio Visual of the drops and Got Highly Commended in the Intermediate section of the National AV This year. I will post some examples of them, I think I photographed the set-up but cant be sure. I think i used the following settings
Manual Mode pre focused on center of Glass
1/60 sec f11 -f16 ISO 800You can used the off shoe cord,but the Canon one is way too short to keep the background far enough apart. Hope that helps
Might experiment with different liquids sometime.
Heres two examples of what I tried to explain above
Set up number 1
Richie this might help you, I used 2 pieces of plastic piping (used by electricians) only problem is you need a good base that “Wont” move.
Keeps the dropper in the same spot each time.Set Up Number 2
Close up of Number oneAny questions Just ask
Heh SteelyDan… Thanks for that info… The electrical pipe thing is a great idea…! I definitely agree about the off camera cord being too short… the cable is like a bloody spring sometimes….! Thinkiong of getting one of those little remote flash firing things… Could be handy with architectural work too..!
Richie
The ST-E2 works very well indoors with a range of about 30 feet, I have heard its not as good outdoor in bright conditions.I find it more useful in Macro set ups and I have still yet to try it on Insects etc. A Bit pricey though, I bought mine off eBay and it cost (I think) ?90 Sterling. But priced it here In waterford and the Guy wanted ?290 :shock:
Swordie wrote:
Here’s another site to feast your eyes on:
Very cool :-)
Great thread! Some escellent tips here. I had tried this kind of thing myself in the past and didn’t really get anywhere with it. I was going to construct a trigger as the ones that are commercially avaialbe are just so expensive, but the replies here prove that there is no need fo any sort of triger at all (although it would undoubtedly make life easier). I’m going to go back and re-try this myself sometime over the next week or so!
Lets see the results Thorsten, as i have said in the thread that all it takes is a little patiance and you will get “Keepers” The Key is to get the focus correct. I used a Cotton bud in the center of the glass, focused on it, then took it away, and started dropping. I found the ISO 800 to be good with exposures and if you used the settings I gave above ,you wont be too far wrong.
Madra Rua wrote:
Came across thisearlier on.
Is that a real image or all PS? If it’s real how the hell is it done?
wow… Ive no idea how that was done!?! Maybe the candle was held upside down and water was… nah I can’t even think how!?
Maybe it was a really good Photoshop job…
ps: If anyone can’t see the image, copy and paste this link into your address bar in a new window… rather than clicking on it.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7312/3198/1600/Desktop%20Background.jpg
Thanks for that tip Jay, hadn’t been able to see that earlier-
looks like a comp to me…This has been a very illuminating thread, with some top tips and pointers-
I might even be tempted to try some myself soon- (must spend even more money on optics first)
MTBIreland’s original question was brilliant- 2 lines that could start a book. (or about ten thousand exposures)Thanks for the pointers and the links-
j
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