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Tram at Kingsbridge
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I snapped this shot outside the railway station at Kingsbridge, Dublin. The hill behind is Steevens’ Lane and the 18th century building is Doctor Steevens’ Hospital which is now used by HSE (Health Service) bureaucrats. The hospital was founded in 1720.
joolsveer wrote:
I snapped this shot
Afraid to say that this sums the shot up for me. The overcast sky and dull lighting really don’t do the shot any favours. If this shot was either on a bright day with blue sky and fluffy clouds, if could make a great stock shot, or if it was late at night, with a stormy sky, it could have been really dramatic, but the lighting just ruins it for me.
Hope that doesn’t comer across really harsh – it’s not meant to!
Hope it helps!
Tim
I agree with Tim.
It would be interesting photo if you shot only the train and the guy and converted to b&w….Sorry jools, thought you allowed edits (like myself) so if you want it deleted I will delete it but as I did a bit of work on it I will leave it in the meantime. (I used curves and increased saturation)
I don’t have a problem with your edit Brandyman. I called my photo a snapshot because some of the members of the forum use this word in a denigratory fashion. To me the word is interchangeable with photograph and I don’t take offence. It fits into the concept that some have of “photography as art”.
I prefer my crop as it contrasts the 1720 building with the 21st century tram. I would prefer if the sky was stormier looking but I feel at this time of year we are stuck with the weather that comes. I may try adding a different sky but my post processing skills are not really good enough.
Thanks everyone for your comments.
Again the power of the image title is evident in my oppinion – you call this “Tram at Kingsbridge”.., even though Heuston hasn’t been called that for some time .. its not in the photo.. so to me the subject you intend the viewer to look at is the tram ?? :?
Your edit may intend to give the juxtaposition of Stewarts Hospital and the Tram .. but the street furniture ie – lamp posts / traffic lights / bus shelter et al completely obscure the building, beyond any interest. If you intended to illustrate the dichotomy of old V new then accross the street to the left of the Guinnes Gate might have offered a better perspective.
To be blunt this isn’t a great composition.. I’m not sure what I’m supposed to be looking at!
Sorry.. But it doesn’t work for me
L
joolsveer wrote:
I called my photo a snapshot because some of the members of the forum use this word in a denigratory fashion.
Can’t think for a moment who you might be referring to :lol:
LoGill wrote:
Again the power of the image title is evident in my oppinion – you call this “Tram at Kingsbridge”.., even though Heuston hasn’t been called that for some time .. its not in the photo.. so to me the subject you intend the viewer to look at is the tram ?? :?
Your edit may intend to give the juxtaposition of Stewarts Hospital and the Tram .. but the street furniture ie – lamp posts / traffic lights / bus shelter et al completely obscure the building, beyond any interest. If you intended to illustrate the dichotomy of old V new then accross the street to the left of the Guinnes Gate might have offered a better perspective.
To be blunt this isn’t a great composition.. I’m not sure what I’m supposed to be looking at!
Sorry.. But it doesn’t work for me
L
I do not claim that this is a perfect composition. To me it documents part of my childhood which has changed in recent years. This is part of a project which I have been working on for a number of years now. My stamping ground as I grew up was what are now the Dublin 7 and 8 postal districts.
I was born in this locality in 1953 and the railway station had been called Kingsbridge for about 100 years at that stage. My grandmother who was born in 1895 and on her marriage in 1912 moved to a house not a stone’s throw away would never have known it called anything else. My mother was born in that house in 1924 and is still hail and hearty and she has never called it anything else. I have no issue with people, however, who want to call the station or tram stop after a “freedom fighter/terrorist” but I will not join them.
The hospital is Doctor Steevens’ and to my knowledge has never been known by any other name. In recent years an ugly Victorian addition was removed.
joolsveer wrote:
To me it documents part of my childhood which has changed in recent years.
:) I know a fella who tried that on a CV once and got 6 months’ suspended sentence :wink:
Just to keep this focused on photography
joolsveer wrote:
I do not claim that this is a perfect composition. ..
I don’t think I referred to you saying it was compositionally perfect, far from it, I’m glad you can agree with me in that. You posted the shot for critique and that is what I offered. The personal story and history behind the shot isn’t refelcted to the viewer and in my oppinion has no effect on the quality of the photograph.
L
LoGill wrote:
Just to keep this focused on photography
joolsveer wrote:
I do not claim that this is a perfect composition. ..
I don’t think I referred to you saying it was compositionally perfect, far from it, I’m glad you can agree with me in that. You posted the shot for critique and that is what I offered. The personal story and history behind the shot isn’t refelcted to the viewer and in my oppinion has no effect on the quality of the photograph.
L
I don’t agree that we can divorce ourselves from our surroundings and the effects they have on us personally. The history of Dublin (or any other location) cannot be excluded from our work which shows those places.
If our life experiences are not to have an influence on our “snaps” or “artworks” we might as well give up. I am happy to have your critique and that of all other viewers even those who make sarcastic comments. I try (and I hope I succeed) in not making snide comments about other members’ work and I wish that all abided by the same principle.
Dave, I think the difficulty arises because the photo is posted in a photo critique forum, not a site for pure display. I have an online gallery where I have some photos which are worth ‘diddly squat’ in terms of photographic merit, composition, technique, etc. I kn ow better than to post them here…. :lol:
It has been said before, that this is not a photo display site ala FlickR or Pbase. People look at photos posted here as if they were entered in a photographic competition, and offer advice as to how or why it could be improved in terms of photographic merit, composition, technique, etc.
FWIW, if I was judging this photo in a competition, my comments would be very similar to those already posted.
But I have a feeling you dont want them ‘judged’ that way? If that is the case, maybe a gallery on Pbase or FlickR would be a better place to display them?My 2c worth
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