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We Shall Meet In A Place Where There Is No Darkness
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Good image. The only thing that niggles slightly for me is the
edge of the sink – the brightness draws me away slightly from
the main image. Nice and contrasty. I like it…Rob.
We spent the night in the bathroom getting wasted
If you’re saying what I think you’re saying then… sorry, that’s as far as it goes for me.
Sorry, I have an issue with this.
If you’re going to comment on this, comment to critique on the photo, not on the person. No one else has a right to critisize someone they don’t know for their choices in life, no matter what those choices may be. I thought people around here would have more maturity than that.
Whether any one person agrees or disagrees with whatever that statement meant, it really isn’t the point here. I’m being objective about this by the way, so if anyone wants to called me biased for whatever reason, well….stick it :D
Sometimes my son sits down with me here to look at photos… so comments like that don’t belong here IMO, that’s assuming that my initial assumption is correct.
All people are free to make choices in life, I 100% agree… but coming onto a Photography forum and glorifying certain lifestyles is in-appropriate as far as I am concerned.
So say what you will POM… but in this particular instance I don’t really care. If my original assumption is wrong then I’ll have no problem in issueing an apology.
Well, I think that’s a bit harsh.
Greg was explaining to me the situation as to why it wasn’t “dressed”, and not glorifying certain lifestyles as you put it. Granted, you choose to let your son sit with you and look at photos, but this is an open forum, and photography encompasses many different ideas, themes, etc, and a more damaging image than anything Greg has uploaded could be quite available to your son on this forum, should someone choose to display it.
I don’t think this is a resolvable issue, especially if we both feel so strongly about it. So I would be inclined to put this down to a difference of opinion, and leave this photo be.
I’m sure if Greg feels like defending himself to you at a later date, he will.Now lets get back to nitpicking other peoples photo’s! :lol:
You can give me all the artistic justification in the world.. you and every other member.. it will not change my opinion.
I’ve said as much as I want to say on this. On that note I shall bow out gracefully on this thread, lets just say I’ve just changed channel.
Ah Meghan..you really didn’t hang about Peeing someone off did ya? :wink:
Actually…I think you’ll find if you read the rules that this actually IS meant as a family safe forum, hence the unavailability of nude shots. This is an argument that has raged in the past. But those are the rules as they stand. I would assume that what NFL is referring to is the oblique reference to the use of recreational and hard drugs and the glorification of same.
As there is a syringe evident in the shot, I would imagine that with the terminology used that is where he got that impression. Of course I’m sure he was actually referring to the use of alcohol and not some illegal substance for which he could be arrested for being in possession of.
I would wholeheartedly agree that this forum should not ever be used for the promotion of drug cultures or attempting to make it look cool, as it is anything but cool. In fact it is an idiotic ridiculous waste of life, and I would gladly go on record to state that as my view. I think if somebody where to promote the use of illegal narcotics on a public forum or even “brag” about using them..then they have every right to be challenged.
Just my tuppence hapenny worth :-)
No I guess I didn’t :lol:
I would agree with you Expresbro, it shouldn’t be glorified, although I daresay LaGwardia has more sense than to attempt to glorify it or make it look cool, if, of course, that was even what he was referring to. (Bearing in mind he also said on this thread that he is a body piercer, and from having friend who are piercers also, I know that they would have access to alot of props us normal folk wouldnt! :P) And yeah, I agree that should somebody promote illegal narcotics people have every right to challenge them, but I just really didn’t get the impression that this is what was going on here. This photo is alongside many others that LaGwardia has displayed here, and I think if his interpretation of the art of photography was inappropriate, it would have been deemed so a long time ago by the administrator and moderator of this site, and he would have been shown the door.
However, this is not the case, and I’m a firm believer in innocence until proven guilty.
And hey, it might be controversial but I like this photo.
I must say that i am drawn to this image mainly out of curiosity and i am sure many of the viewers would be,as other members have explained that this is indeed a lifestyle image expressed through the eyes of the photographer. The photographer aside from technical ability has envoked many emotions from various viewers-correct? Is that not the objective of the Art of Photography? Personnally speaking i think the image reminds me of a babyshamles or a point in the New York Punk scene of the late eighties. I suppose this is society as we know it should we choose to ignore it or accept it that is to each’s own.
BenMy concerns had more to do with the comments rather than the image.
Greg.. if I had a clue what you’re talking about then maybe this issue could be sorted out.. but your write up above is way OTT as far as I am concerned. Can you not just state yourself simply?
If I’m being honest… it doesn’t really interest me what you work at, what music you like, what films you enjoy, what your feelings are for romance etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. You seem a little more obsessed with talking about yourself than actually addressing the issue.
Your picture aside, you stated “We spent the night in the bathroom getting wasted”. I interpreted that as some form of drug usage. So did a few other members.
I have already stated that this is an assumption on my behalf and if I am wrong then I will issue an apology.
Well Greg.
I admire your viewpoint, and I really admire your photo. Has all the attributes of a brilliant piece of work.
Made me stop, stare, and most importantly, think.
The sadness and pain in your picture oozes from every pixel, and is quite striking, well, to me anyway.
Personally, I know where chemical abuse, whether it be booze or drugs, took me.
I can identify with this picture, I like it.
Keep it up, if you want, its not gonna get any brighter….
Ken
Surely you can’t put together a picture that you know will shock,
that contains ‘shocking’ parphernalia; blood, incision, pain,
in an environment most people would consider to be the opposite of antiseptic,
and then come over all hurt when somebody dares to criticize you for your admission of getting wasted?If you’re going to project an illusion,
wouldn’t a ‘whatever’ be the right response when the moral majority
(non smoking landscapers)
drop by to buy into it?I don’t have any tattoos-
I don’t think I’m self obsessed enough to bother-
but I wouldn’t for an instant dare to criticize someone else’s choices on the basis of a photograph-Because that is the job of the Red-Top Rags-
not somebody who has some idea of how an image is put together-This image is sophisticated enough to provoke more than one reaction-
there will be those who will buy into your list of cd’s (us)
and those who will be shocked at the decadence and the decrepitude (them)Is this not the purpose of the picture?
In addition, of course, to your stated and more personal aims of illustrating a complicated relationship-
a narrative which requires a written commentary to fully explain,
and which seems overwhelmed by the more basic elements of the picture-Your overwrought response is maybe a bit surprise to me-
I might have expected something cooler-joseph
From my point of view I don’t have a problem with the image as it can be interpreted as being ‘staged’ for the sake of replicating something that is unfortunately a growing problem in society.
In fact I was quite empty towards the image… having seen people doing this in the flesh in a dark corner in St. Stephen’s Green whilst on a lunch-time stroll one day there’s very little the image can do to top this somewhat sad and disgusted feeling I experienced.
Then Greg added the part that I interpreted as being fact i.e. “We spent the night in the bathroom getting wasted”. That’s when 1+1 started to equal 2 for me.
When the ‘staging’ stopped and what seems to me like the ‘reality’ started it was enough for me… and I put forth my opinion.
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