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  • jb7
    Participant

    I’ve always liked the Mamiya RZ, as an alternative-
    For portraiture, the 6×7 format gives you a larger original,
    and the inevitable cropping throws away less image-

    Its a physically larger camera,
    but it handles beautifully-

    j

    Thorsten
    Member

    jb7 wrote:

    I’ve always liked the Mamiya RZ, as an alternative-
    For portraiture, the 6×7 format gives you a larger original,
    and the inevitable cropping throws away less image-

    Its a physically larger camera,
    but it handles beautifully-

    j

    I had thought of suggesting the Mamiya RZ as an alternative myself, but then I figured it might not be as portable. But there’s no doubt that it’s a fine camera, which is very versatile. One of the features I love about it is the rotating back. It’s also well suited to digital as well as film. I’ve never owned one, but still hope to get my hands on one at some stage! On the other hand, it’s hard to resist the lure of a “Hassy” given the status it has earned itself over the years and with the price of digital kit being the way it is, a traditional Hasselblad is no longer as expensive as it used to be (in relative terms!).

    jb7
    Participant

    The only problem I had with the RZ was the 50mm-
    it showed a lot of distortion-
    Not so much of an issue these days,
    where everything is scanned and digitally edited.

    By contrast, the Hasselblad SWC (a fixed 38mm Biogon on a dedicated Hasselblad body)
    was perhaps one of the finest lenses I’ve ever used-

    However, neither of these lenses will be used for portraiture.

    Thorsten

    it’s hard to resist the lure of a “Hassy” given the status it has earned itself over the years

    Within the portrait and fashion world, particularly for magazine work,
    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mamiya was by far the more popular choice-

    j

    Thorsten
    Member

    jb7 wrote:

    By contrast, the Hasselblad SWC (a fixed 38mm Biogon on a dedicated Hasselblad body)
    was perhaps one of the finest lenses I’ve ever used-

    Is there anything out there that you haven’t used but would like to at some stage? I personally would love to “play” with a Fuji GX617 as well as the Fuji GX680 III (no longer being made). (With apologies to Johnny for hijacking his thread again!)

    jb7 wrote:

    Within the portrait and fashion world, particularly for magazine work,
    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mamiya was by far the more popular choice-

    j

    I think you’re probably right there! :)

    JohnnyMcMillan
    Participant

    Ahhh Thorsten, tis not hijacking, cos I’m learning about other cameras in this thread too! :)

    jb7
    Participant

    Thorsten wrote:

    Is there anything out there that you haven’t used but would like to at some stage? I pesonally would love to “play” with a Fuji GX617 as well as the Fuji GX680 III (no longer being made)

    I would have liked a go on that too, (GX 680)
    a long time ago it would have been high on the list,
    though not so much now-

    The list, however, still exists, and gets ever longer-

    Starting from the top,
    I’d love a go at 10×8-
    I nearly bought one recently,
    but I’m quite glad I didn’t,
    not just yet-

    and moving swiftly to the ridiculous,
    The Seitz 6×17 with 160 million pixels looks like it’d give endless fun.
    Though a ShenHao 6×17 rollfilm back would be much more achieveable-

    Any of the Fuji 6×9’s,
    but particularly the GSW 690 III-

    Those 39Mp digital backs you talked about recently,
    on an Arca Swiss 6×9 F-line with Orbix-
    plus a nice set of wide Digitars-
    and a Mamiya 645 AFD for snapping away on-

    And of course, for daywear, a rather more pedestrian 1DS Mk III.

    Is there anything I’ve left out of page 1?

    j

    Fintan
    Participant

    the Mamiya RZ is a seriously good camera and excellent for portraits. its a little heavy for a longish shoot when using handheld. The Pentax 67 is great too and I’ve seen several fashion and glamour photographers use it [inc Bob Carlos Clarke]

    there are so many options in 645 6×6 6×7 [and more panoramic formats] but to narrow down your choice of camera you should decide ..

    format
    handheld use or not
    rangefinder or not

    i went hasselblad coz i love square images but there are several other mf cameras that are square format and probably every bit as good

    stcstc
    Member

    johnny

    have you looked at stuff like mamiya and bronica

    I know where there is a serious mamiya kit that would go for sale. I know there are quite a few lenses etc with it,

    I will ask how much the guy wants for it, I know its good too, cos I have it at the moment

    Fintan
    Participant

    Just one more piece of advice from a regular medium format user, these cameras dont generally like being stuffed in a press for long periods. most manual cameras need to be used regularly or their lubrication dries up causing the timing to be affected.

    if you are buying off someone that hasnt used their camera/lenses in a while you should ask for some guarantee as it can cost up to ?200 for a basic clean lube and adjust [aka CLA]

    JohnnyMcMillan
    Participant

    You see most of what I would do would be handheld. I’ve been shooting with my TLR with a close up lense and liking what I’m getting in close up shots, but when it comes to portraits from about waist height up it’s just extremely difficult for me to focus and also i’m losing out completely on quality when I do. I’m pretty sure though that I wouldn’t be able to get so close with such depth of field that I’m getting with my Yashica on a Hassy (please say I’m wrong!!!) But it would be mostly used for portrait work, and I guess being able to spend in the price range of 1000 euro’s up to about 1300? Is that possible then??? Is Ebay the way then for that price range??? It’s kinda funny, cos I know ZILCHO when it comes to Hasselblads/Bronica/Mamiya’s….give me a toy camera and I’m your man!!!

    Also a mate of mine just asked “why don’t you just buy a 30D or something”….I’m a analog man, yes it’s more expensive etc….but I don’t think I’ll ever turn back now…

    jb7
    Participant

    The RZ has bellows focussing-
    the lenses are fixed, and the lens mount racks out to focus-
    This gives very high magnification with standard lenses,
    decreasing as the focal length gets longer.

    Standard lens on 6×7 is 90- 110 mm-

    All the cameras mentioned here are SLR type,
    you look through the taking lens-

    If you’re using a75 or 80mm lens now,
    you should get the same depth of field using a similar lens on any camera at the same magnification-

    j

    I know its over your budget, but a quick search on ebay turned this up-

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mamiya-RZ-67-Medium-format-Camera-Kit-lots-of-Lenses_W0QQitemZ280117511085QQihZ018QQcategoryZ3352QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    Its amazing what value can be had at the moment-
    and I’d better stop doing this before this goes on the wishlist too-

    JohnnyMcMillan
    Participant

    Well you see when I don’t use the close up lense the closest I can get is this…

    And with the close up lense I get this…

    And that’s what I’m trying to get…it’s just with the waist up shot, it’s difficult to get good focus…

    jb7
    Participant

    Nice pictures Johnny,
    but I reckon you could do with a longer lens anyway-
    in my opinion-

    Close ups of people with standard lenses leads to you being very close to your subject-
    meaning that the relative distances between different features of the face is proportionally greater-
    leading to the part of the face thats closest to the camera being disproportionally larger than a feature thats further away-

    But you know this anyway,
    and maybe thats the effect you want-

    Being able to select different focal lengths is a good thing-

    I reckon a 150 – 180 would be good for portraiture-
    and you can use extension tubes or close up lenses if you need more magnification-

    But with a longer lens you’ll be further away anyway-
    Sorry if you know all this already-

    JohnnyMcMillan
    Participant

    No I didn’t know this Joseph…thank you for the info, and yes in that close up shots I’m about 2 feet from her face…lol

    Thorsten
    Member

    JohnnyMcMillan wrote:

    I’m a analog man, yes it’s more expensive etc….but I don’t think I’ll ever turn back now…

    Can I ask why? No, I don’t want to start a film -v- digital discussion and neither am I asking you to justify your choice, just genuinely interested in your reasons. FWIW, in spite of shooting mainly digital, I still have my Canon film bodies and my Bronica ETRSi as I like to have the flexibility to shoot either, so my question isn’t motivated out of any malicious intent!

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