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  • steveb
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    Hi all
    There is less than two weeks left for you to play a part in the making of the 4th leg of this story.
    Please donate what you can at the link above. Time is of the essence now, so don’t delay………
    Best wishes
    Stephen

    steveb
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    Yeah, I got that book when it was published a few years ago for a birthday or xmas, cant remember which. Its class though. Cant beat photo books. Pushing for magnum/phadion’s photo story book this year. Hope the hint gets through! Its 8 years old, but I only found it the other day.

    steveb
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    Damn Google. You cheated…..Yep, HCB was here at this spot 60 years ago. Maybe not exactly that spot, he used 50mm. I was stuck with a 28. This is the best I could to do him justice. No black clad women with hats these days.

    steveb
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    Beautiful. 1, 3 & 8 for me. Though being a sucker for grain, contrast and B&W I like to look at them all.

    steveb
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    Where were you when I was arguing about the photographs taken in Norway?

    Actually I was following that particular amusing bust up, but decided that not to comment as I know the guy quite well (he was in our street photography group for about 8 months) and knew where it would go if I got involved, and also the photos were not particularly good and spoke for themselves really (sorry Andy if reading this :? ).

    I can only assume that you have experience in working or dealing with the homeless?

    Not really, but I have a relative who was homeless for a while before he was rescued. I work (photographically speaking) mostly with migrants and I do occasionally come across a few who are forced into homelessness, especially in Greece. I feel very sorry for them thats all, I just feel the power of photography should be used in a more targeted manner to help them, although I know ultimately its probably not photography that will do that.

    steveb
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    Hmm, Im a fan your photography Dave, and when I see a post from you I usually click on it straight away, and Im usually satisfied. But I prefer the first set, they are much stronger. But, I know from trying to photograph our own Occupy Dame Street movement here in Dublin (before I gave up on it) that it is damn difficult to come up with anything orginal with them. The one with the dogs is the best, but might you have gotten closer, used them maybe as stronger center point?
    Steve

    steveb
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    Steveb here
    That discussion was some time ago, and I somehow missed this thread. Well, now I have seen it and can comment on it.
    This is exactly the type of photography I was complaining about. You have photographed some homeless people in a heavy stylised manner and posted them on here to show off. In no way is the viewer informed on the matter of homelessness, or the diffculties they face. Even within the category of street photography it is cliched and opportunistic, and offers nothing other than the fact that you can take some snazzy shots. Maybe I will concede that sometimes a street shot of homeless people can work but these do not, nor do any others I have seen on here. And it certainly is not documentary. If it is to be that, you need better access than grap shots on the street. And you need to work with charities and social workers who work with them. And you need hard graft research done before, during and after. I dont know what you are calling this (street or docu) but sorry, it is simply cheap. I stress again (in contradiction to almost all the memebers on here I realise) – using people in vulnerable situations as subjects for snap shots and them posting here, or flickr or other such sites, is unethical.
    Again, If you want photography to help them, and not just to show off your technique, make connections, network, and do an extended study of the situation with proper access and with proper peer reviewed research as a solid background.
    Sorry, but that is where I stand on this.
    Steve

    steveb
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    Please be advised that this call is now closed.
    Kind regards
    Stephen

    steveb
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    Please be advised that this call is now closed.
    Regards
    Stephen

    steveb
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    Can’t believe nobody appears to be excited about this. Im opening a bottle of wine and gonna look at this now.
    Cheers Mark

    steveb
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    It’s a fine shot. What I like are the tones, the grain, and the expression of the the subject. A good rough street shot. See you took it with a M6 too.

    steveb
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    Of the three, number two is the most powerful. Don’t normally go for heavy PP (if that is what you did, I dont understand your description as I dont know anything about it) but despite that they work.

    steveb
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    I appreciate the intent. But, if I may say, your composition is off. You are very far away and the main subject is too isolated. This was a difficult shot take well, I actually can’t think of any way you could have made it better though. Maybe it wasn’t meant to be.

    steveb
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    alancotter wrote:

    steveb wrote:

    Yeah, but thats what everyone would have done

    Really? Thats some assumption.

    Tis, but there you go. I see you have done some shadow work. I much like it, but I dont want to copy it.

    Anyway all, many thanks for the critique and comments. We shall meet again.

    steveb
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    Dedalus wrote:

    i think you’re being a bit hard on yourself there,

    No, it’s called the editing process.

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